October 20-30: OS 3.0

Well, after I had their page translated...it appears that the new JJ 2500 OS will be released this month.

The JJ OS for the 2500 is just a modified MPC 1000 OS. Some functions that work in the Akai OS will disappear in the JJ OS WTF?

yo jahrome, you planning on switching over to the JJ OS? How exactly do you feel about it?

"Being AKAI, OS the function which is not NEW OS (there is no schedule which will be attached even in the future)

　　1.　The function which is called direct recording with AKAI OS

　　2.　[konteiniasutoratsuku]

　　3.　There are no choices of CD in INPUT of record mode.
"

I m lost..

savilion wrote:"Being AKAI, OS the function which is not NEW OS (there is no schedule which will be attached even in the future)

　　1.　The function which is called direct recording with AKAI OS

　　2.　[konteiniasutoratsuku]

　　3.　There are no choices of CD in INPUT of record mode.
"

I m lost..

What JJ is saying that there are three features from the Akai 2500 OS that are not going to be implemented in the JJ OS, and that he also doesn't plan to implement them in the future. These three features are:

1. Direct Recording
2: Continous Sampletrack
3. You can't sample from the built in CD drive

So it seems he's porting the OS from the 1000 which doesn't have these features- is this correct?

Still looking forward to get my hands on the JJ OS and see if the new features make sense!

S.

Exactly.

Direct recording and continuous sample track are nothing I really use, but I don't want anything removed from the OS. But...I thought the 1000 had these features.....

Now taking away my CD functions...the OS will not be installed in my MPC. There isn't one function that JJ has implemented that would make me want to use the OS. But I would be curious to know what you guys think once you loaded the OS in your machines.

I've got to agree with Jahrome on this. I recently upgraded from the 1k to the 2.5k and I had purchased and enjoyed the JJ OS on the 1K. However, sampling from the CD is a useful feature and I do not want to lose that, or the other two features for that matter.

For now, I'll stick to the Akai OS.

bb

i hope there's no prob with midi in a future.

bertiebassett wrote:I've got to agree with Jahrome on this. I recently upgraded from the 1k to the 2.5k and I had purchased and enjoyed the JJ OS on the 1K. However, sampling from the CD is a useful feature and I do not want to lose that, or the other two features for that matter.

For now, I'll stick to the Akai OS.

bb

There is a learning process that goes with changing MPC's and New O.S.
And Sometimes you have to wait it out,........and that's what I'm doing.tho
I'm leaning more torge... the 4k and what it can do, The 25k is still tha next best thing to the Newer MPC's. I want the 4k to be more equip than any mpc bar-none,even tho i don't use patchphrase,and autoslice.. it's a nice tool to have..which is not in the OS (4k)and that ......kinda give the 25 the edge in that area.But when you start taking away tools like....sampling from the CD or not having the MMC,and MTC code in the MP, and later install it in the new OS.........................Man that makes me wonder and hold out.

　1.　The function which is called direct recording with AKAI OS

direct recording is gone, replaced with 8 continuous sample tracks (last 8 tracks out of 64). i don't really use them but probably will someday.

cd in is gone, too. probably not to be implemented. take that at face value, if you spend a lot of time sampling from cd and you can't play the cd from any other medium, then you're SOL

2.　[konteiniasutoratsuku]

if this isn't completely obvious then i don't know what to say.

as for what makes the current os worth it - people should at least try out the grid edit. let me post a picture and see if i can explain, although i dont know if it will do it justice...



ok, you see how f2 is EVENT? when you press EVENT, f3-f6 change to what you see in the picture. TIME lets you push and pull the note back and forth 21 ticks in either direction - while still showing it on whatever TC value resolution you're currently viewing. when you've shifted a note, it appears with the symbols ">3" or w/e in the TIME parameter. when it comes to groove building, this is unspeakably good.

nothing new, per se, that you couldn't do before, but what we have is a more handy, precise and effective method of grid editing.

not to mention a vastly improved trim screen, much better designed load/save screen, pimped qlink sliders, stereo chopping (!! much more awesome than i had given it credit previously, i had scoffed at stereo but i would never go back). patched phrase is still mono, but pp is for suckers (that is until i figure out why it'd be useful to me )

basically, it won't hurt anyone to try the os (you can always switch back w/ no problems) and see if it's worth it to them. one of the nicest things also is that the saving bugs are all done for. you can store much more stuff now without worrying about losing files, new folder freezes, or data corruption.

there's definitely more of a decision to be made when it comes to installing the os for the 2500 as opposed to the 1000. having seen both, i have to say that when it comes to bugs, workflow and functions, the jenius os is nicer, but the final call comes down to the individual user.

for now, at least. when qlink grid edit and other additional features get coded into the os's, there will really be no question about it, unless you REALLY REALLY need that cd rom feature.

Now, the 8 continuous sample tracks is cool. I wrote a thread about that at the beginning of the year.

But taking away the CD function? What kind of logic is that? Its apparent that they maxed out the MPC capabilities with these additional features that are not really needed and would be better suited doing those functions in a software DAW. Now the sampling from CD function can be worked around...but if I can't load my CD/DVD Roms or burn CDs, then it will turn me off....but they didn't specifically state that. Since Antonym is on the pay role, maybe he can shed some light into the CD functions.

contrary to anonymously submitted, uninformed speculation, the current additional features did not max out the mpc's capabilities.

Well since you have the insight.....why was the feature taken out? All the 2500s sold today have CD drives...why son..why would those features be taken out when they were already there?

my guess is that "taken out" is not the correct way of thinking about it, as the os for the 2500 is not hacked from the 2500 code, but rather from the current jenius os. it was simply never put in. the reason: it's pretty possible that the jjs never had the 2500 code, only the 1000.

it was simply never put in. why they plan never to implement it is a mystery to me, maybe we're misinterpreting the poor translation, or maybe they just think it's a pretty useless hardware addon when you can sample from a cd player/computer and save data on CF card or hard drive...

just like the guts of the 2500, the jenius 2500 os will be derived from the mpc1000 - the larger, slower to catch on mpc (like Lenny in "Of Mice and Men").

No, I am not misinterpreting anything....my family reads/speak Japanese.

If I have to use my PC to sample CDs, I might as well use it for multi-tracking audio, editing samples, grid edit, effects, and any other silly feature that JJ adds..no?

what's silly about a more in depth grid sequencing, applicable qlink use, and global parameter controls? if you'd rather grid edit on a pc than on an mpc, we're really speaking a different language.

it sounds like you aren't even aware of what this os offers. it has no new effects, and the only sample editing that it adds is for breaking up/combining stereo samples (a feature which many people in this forum have wanted).

the reason why the os is an asset is because it takes existing functions (qlink, grid edit, trim page, continuous sample, etc etc) further. it improves and adds on the original design.