Will records die?

Here's a question for you:

I just turned 30 this year and I can't help to wonder with the new generation coming up on MP3's, CD Turntables, SSL and all the other wonders of the digital generation, do you think vinyl will finally get the last nail in it's coffin? If you're my age you at least remember records around the house when you were a kid, now unless you're a DJ or a producer, records are only something you come across in thrift shops & garage sales. Around my way (here in Japan) I've seen 3 or 4 record shops go out of business in the last few years. We only really have one hip-hop record shop left in my city. How much longer you think vinyl will hang on?

theryre already dead. cds dvds are next.

peezie wrote:theryre already dead. cds dvds are next.

to you there dead ...... i beg to deffer.

man i'm turning 36 in about two weeks and i was raised on records/tape and radio, we just open a record store and it's all vinyl no new music no cd's just staright old records classics, hard to find rare vinyl, and i have many customers that come in and buy some from this site even, and there's alot of people that ae in there60's that come in and still buy old records that we have, it's a struggling business but as i told my friend when we opened this store, stay away from the new stuff cause we will die quick with that stuff and i have seen it with many store's if they deal with new music they will struggle to sel it, let it be bought on line keep it out of the old record stores cause kids of today they dont understand the music of today it's in and out in a week the record store has to try to keep up with the new music there goin to put them self's in debt that way to keep up on top of things,
then what happens to the new records from two weeks ago they have to drop the price and sell it for cheap and take a loss on it.
what people dont understand is that when you buy from a distbutor you still pay 4-5 dollars per record then the store put's a mark up of 2 bucks so they are not maken any money , with old records you buy them in lots and pay about 1-2 dollars per records and depending on odd or rare it is and the condition you make money off it,

i have been in this for 30 yrs and i have heard many times over the yrs that it will die, but NO i think NOT, as i say there's people for digital and there's peole like me that will never go to digital and stick to anolog.

i can go on but what for people have there belief's and i have mine.
as i see it say what you want it's still here and i dont see it goin anywhere anytime soon,

VINYL RULES
PEACE
e.d.e

there will always be a botique and collectors market so its not going anywhere soon. Everyone cries about it, but on the indie level it will still be a medium next to cd and mp3.

dj e.d.e wrote:

peezie wrote:i have been in this for 30 yrs and i have heard many times over the yrs that it will die, but NO i think NOT, as i say there's people for digital and there's peole like me that will never go to digital and stick to anolog.

Yeah. I hear what you're saying about not focusing on the new stuff. That's smart.

I love my vinyl too, but I wonder if we're the last generation...

Murahachibu wrote:

dj e.d.e wrote:

peezie wrote:i have been in this for 30 yrs and i have heard many times over the yrs that it will die, but NO i think NOT, as i say there's people for digital and there's peole like me that will never go to digital and stick to anolog.

Yeah. I hear what you're saying about not focusing on the new stuff. That's smart.

I love my vinyl too, but I wonder if we're the last generation...

NO..NO..NO. MAN IF YOU GOT KIDS YOU TEACH THEM SHOW THEM , MY SON IS 5YRS OLD NOW AND HE HAS A COLLECTION OF KIDDIE RECORDS
THAT I HAVE BOUGHT FOR HIM AND I TAUGHT HIM HOW TO PUT THE RECORD ON AND OFF, PLUS HE'S BEEN DJING SINCE HE WAS TWO IF YOU GO TO MY BREIFCASE YOU CAN SEE HIM SCRATCHING TO ONE OF MY BEATS.
WE WONT LET IT DIE MAN,
I USE TO RECORD CD'S FOR MY SON ABOUT TWO YRS AGO BUT I SWITCHED TO RECORDING HIM TAPES NOW,HE HAS HIS OWN TAPE PLAYER AND WHEN HE CLEANS HIS ROOM HE TURNS IT ON. THE THING IS TEACHING AND SPEARDING THE KNOWLEDGE TO THE YOUNGER GENERATION, SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL MOM AND POP SHOP'S WHEN EVER POSSIBLE IF YOUR NOT DOWN FOR THE PRICES BUY WHAT YOU NEED THEN AND NOT WHAT YOU DONT NEED ASK THEM IF THEY WILL DO A WANT LIST FOR YOU ,
WE DO THIS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS WE BUY IN LOTS SO IF WE COME ACROSS IT IT'S YOUR FIRST.FEEL ME.?

MAIN THING IS TO TEACH THE YOUNGER GENERATION CAUSE THERE'S ALOT OF KIDS THAT DONT KNOW WHAT VINYL IS OR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE BELEIEVE IT OR NOT,
SOME PARENTS DID TEACH THERE KIDS BECAUSE THEY FELT IT WAS A BAD THING OR THEY JUST GOT RID OF THERE RECORDS AND SWITCH ED TO CD'S THATS ASHAME,


THANKS DAD FOR SHOW HIM WHAT A RECORD WAS AND GIVING ME THE OPPERTUNITY TO DISCOVER THIS WORLD ON MY OWN,

NOW I'M TEACHING MY SON'S

I ASK YOU VINYL JUNKIES TO DO THE SAME .

Dont get me wrong. Its reality. I still spend most of my money on buying records and sample nothing else. Im just saying, the industry's support is gone. Djs dont even buy records anymore. Serato scratch and laptop djs are making it worse. At least vinyls have novelty value, but nobodys going to miss cds when theyre gone.

peezie wrote:Dont get me wrong. Its reality. I still spend most of my money on buying records and sample nothing else. Im just saying, the industry's support is gone. Djs dont even buy records anymore. Serato scratch and laptop djs are making it worse. At least vinyls have novelty value, but nobodys going to miss cds when theyre gone.

yeah me especiallty i think i own like 50 cd's and i dont even play them,
but beleieve me there's more people out there that still buy records whether it be new or old, you know whats goin on now they sell more comp's and your better off buying comp's sometimes because you get more for your money , but as someone mentioned the underground is the place for records, there's so many records of underground artist out , you just have to buy them on line or and one of those mom and pop shop's.

i wouldnt worry about it, just remeber that AUGUST 12 IS VINYL DAY AND KEEP IT ALIVE EVERY YR. DO YOUR PART TO SPEAD THE WORD .
theres a thread i did on here search for it . it give you a link to the site

lawd no will vinyl die. and if it does let it be in my lifetime 'cuz that $hit will be cheap

I don't care if vinyl dies or not - I love it and will continue to spend a disproportionate amount of my money on it. I have more vinyl than furniture and it's a pain in the a$$ --- but I don't care. I'm not even a dj - just borderline obsessive-compulsive about buying records. I don't even sample anymore - just listen mostly. But it makes me smile every-freakin day coming across records I forgot I even had. It makes no sense to anyone else, but I love that my 'i-pod' fills a room. ............. and my dj friend is always asking to borrow some of my records to rip so he can work them into a set. Vinyl and vinyl diggers are going to be the only ones to remember music before i-tunes or whatever else.

But, like I said, I don't care - - - I love my records - - the world can go where it wants, but I'd soon get my knees dusty in a thrift store than stare all blurry-eyed at i-tunes or any other mp3 store.

...... of course than I can't afford one of them fancy i-pods things, so it might just be sour grapes

vinyl is THE most stable long term storge for recorded data.

period end of story

vinyl out lasted cassette, 8 track, reel to reel, and others.

it will still be here when the industry abandons cd's

it trips me out because records are a fetish thing to a degree.
i mean when you have a hobby that is labled by many as an antigue
well it shows the general thoughts of the market.
dont get me wrong
i love wax and i sample and spin and dig daily
but to the general consumer wax is dead and has been since cds.
records have life as long as they are desired and sought after.
it is a paradox in away
here we are trying to get over on dealers who believe that wax is dead so they get rid of their records because they think no-one is into wax anymore.
so while we might pretend to not believe that records are dying we gladly will participate in the wax funeral if it means getting some good deals from a dealer who is giving up.
the actual record is not dying but the consumer frenzy that was once its backbone is long gone
there are not enough djs,samplists, producers, collectors to bring back wax in the mainstream.( EVEN THOUGH THE ADVERTISMENT MEDIA WOULD LIKE TO EXPLOIT ITS COUNTER-CULTURE PLACE)
it is a specific groove and a specific way of life.
i always think about all the good "out -there" records you find when diggin.
ya-know like the poetry records, or wierd private press records, or all the odd spoken word records telling us how to sell better or why communisim is evil. you find these records everywhere and they come from a time when records were the format and that is that
no-one is making those records anymore
no-one is making a childrens record on actual wax
it is on cds. or mp3 or dvd or whatever is fast and cheap.
this signals a change
it is happening and it will continue
we are really standing on the edge of our souls and holding onto what has given us soo much joy.
and just because the records we love and collect are being slowly disloved into the age of technology
doent mean that they are any less now then they were 50 years ago
and it doesnt mean you are a fool for collecting or digging
it only means that you are carrying a fire that is in the hands of less
and when the collective fires dim
then the lights go out on records.
just my thoughts
peace

DEEP MAN ...

cool

dj e.d.e wrote:just remeber that AUGUST 12 IS VINYL DAY AND KEEP IT ALIVE EVERY YR.

Man, they're already dead. Just because people still collect em, don't make it alive.. The only people that still buy vinyl are dj's and the rare music collectors. That makes it officially dead. And now that cd/mp3 turntables are picking up, less and less dj's are going to be buying vinyl

Don't get me wrong, I love vinyl, but this ain't about my personal preference. I mean it's like antiques..yea, there are still antique shops around, but that ish is still "Dead" to most of the world...

ess and less dj's are going to be buying viny

i think not i got more and more dj's coming in and beginners too,

i have dudes that spin serato and all but i have more vinyl dj's that come in then serato dj's, i have had two people call my shop and ask me one for CD's i laughed at her and said whats that we only sell vinyl here she was appauled ONLY VINYL. then one dude called up asking for code records for serato, i told him sorry we only sell REAL VINYL here
he didnt say anything after that .

but like i said there's more dj 's that i see in my shop that spin VINYL and they wont have it any other way.
i can count the people on two fingers that have asked for new music in my shop, no , i wouldnt say it's dead ,it's just not the personal preference of people these days , but if you go to what i concider the corprate store's Now like rasputin's and aomeba's and i say this because they sell more CD's and DVD's then records but they do sell records still mostly underground stuff alot of indie label stuff but the underground still
keeps the records alive yeah you can't buy some stuff in the stores but you can buy it on line. and if you dont beleive me look at the store's on line they have mass records of whats on the radio now, on line makes it easier to buy records there's more of a variety to sell to then a walk in.
people think records are dead cause these stores dont sell records in the store but the market is on line.