Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By binger0 Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:24 pm
Aight for those that don't know about this you gotta try it.
It really not to hard. See you find a key of the record go down all the keys until you find the root. Then you play a major chord and a minor chord (triads) until you find what the record is. Then you can mix another record which is its "tonic", that means same key, or the perfect 4th, 5th and its realitive minor. You can DJ by mixing melodies which will sound so smooth and flawless transitions (assuming you can beatmatch).
Read this site very very good ish. If you DJ, DON'T SLEEP!!!! Also great to sample with these theories. GOOOOOOD SSSHHHHHIIIII******!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.djprince.no/tips.htm
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By Phatz Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:52 pm
Dammmm Binger0 you find all the tips, I dont dj but ima check this out and if its gangsta ima past it off to my nephew dammmmmm I might keep it for myself too........good looking
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By binger0 Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:22 pm
Ish is off da hook. I am in the process of learning it. It makes you DJ with music theory behind that ish. So people say that to be a good DJ you dont need this (labeling all your records) and can do it by ear. BULLS***. This is what the next step in DJing is. You first learn to beat match and scratch then learn this. For the sample heads wouldnt it be nice to just grab records, sample em, and then find more and sample those and they would all be in key? This is FUNDAMENTAL!!!! I think this is a great tool for anyone in this field (DJ/PRODUCER). Use it.
http://www.djprince.no/
This is the main page go here and they already got a couple thosand records marked. I found Hypnotize by biggie some Tribe and many many more. This might help you to check if you are doing it right.
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By dubmunkey Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:52 am
you can use both the circle of fifths and circle of fourths when tune matching- peeps like 2 many dj's are currently harmonicly matching tunes to great effect.....

greg
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By ieism Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:42 am
I know some dj's that use this technique to some extend, but i think it's more suited to house or D&B. It doesn't seem to work so well with hip-hop.
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By dubmunkey Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:45 am
no id say house and dnb are more rythmically reliant.....hip-hop? well only in the case of layering accapellas and stuff....but for all genre mixes and bootleg mashups its the only way.....by the likes of jaques lu cont, coldcut, 2 many dj's, the avalanches, howie b etc etc..........

greg
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By binger0 Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:34 pm
You can use it to make a quick transition into songs through hip hop. I like to scratch in songs and blend and do slow downs and other little techniques to mix. This is cool for the blends. If you want to change pace in a set then mix in somethin with scratchs and turning off da motor. I think it works on any DJ any genre. I use it to mix my funky breaks and old funk and r&b and rock. It really steps your game up. Just my opinon.
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By ieism Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:29 pm
Perhaps your're right. But i find that most of my friends who dj hip-hop are more low tech guys who are never going to label all their records just because they might blend together nicely. If it don't blend, i scratch for a bit.
What i'm trying to say is, I don't think that mixing technique is used in the same way for all genres. I started out dj-ing D&B when i was younger, now i just spin hip hop. With d&B beatmatching was more of an issue because an intro can go on for like 16 or 24 bars or something. With hiphop you get 8 bars and the vocals kick in, so why break your head over melodies?
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By binger0 Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:02 pm
All techno, dnb, trance, etc. uses beatmatching to create dense soundscapes that are all layered and create songs within songs.
Hip hop though with the mixing is a quick transition into another song. By harmonically mixing you kind of are program a night (random records though, preplaned sets are wack because you don't know what or who your audience is and what atmmosphere and mood its gonna be on that night. You have to be a good DJ to program a good night and know how to drop the right records at the right times. Its all improvisation on the fly, but with mixing this way you can use keys to generate certain moods and stay within a musical element when you are mixing, the people won't notice what your doing, but they will be effected by it. Thats what makes a good performance, one that has tension/and release all night with keys. You can use 2 or 20 songs in the same key to make tranisiton to your night. Like Imma go from a c - c#, it will make appear as if the music just picked up. When you break your songs down like this and think as them as like notes (ie-This song is a dm), you will have much better nights and a sense of direction.
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By dubmunkey Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:34 am
why break your head over melodies? its called progression....things need to eveolve and melodic mixing has always imo been the ultimate evolution of djing...beat matching is easy...beat matching and melodic matching takes a bit more skill.....

just cos things are good as they are doesn't mean things cant improve or evolve....

greg
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By binger0 Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:37 am
dubmunkey wrote:why break your head over melodies? its called progression....things need to eveolve and melodic mixing has always imo been the ultimate evolution of djing...beat matching is easy...beat matching and melodic matching takes a bit more skill.....

just cos things are good as they are doesn't mean things cant improve or evolve....

greg