By akido
Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:18 pm
wouldn't it be cool if we could apply quantize strength with a percentage value?
By HiddenDungon
Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:40 am
........and you could set swing lower thatn 50% i aony want like 15-25% know a way to change this??
By Red Ketchup
Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:01 pm
akido wrote:wouldn't it be cool if we could apply quantize strength with a percentage value?
Hey aKido!
i would like that feature also. I hope the JJ is working on that too.
-Red
By Upright
Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:42 pm
Red Ketchup wrote:Hey aKido!
i would like that feature also. I hope the JJ is working on that too.
-Red
I'm kinda clueless as to what you guys are really wanting here. What is the point of quantizng by percent?? How would it work?? Is there gear out there that quantizes by percentage that you found to be really user friendly or something?? Please explain.
No offense, I just don't get it.
By Red Ketchup
Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:55 pm
Upright,
say you record a sequence without quantization, and you have a note on at 1.1.12 ticks, apply quantize at 100%, and the note on will be moved to 1.1.1. If you select a 65% quantize strength, the note on would be moved to approx 1.1.4, which might make the sequence sound a little less robotic and more human.
Logic Pro has that feature.
say you record a sequence without quantization, and you have a note on at 1.1.12 ticks, apply quantize at 100%, and the note on will be moved to 1.1.1. If you select a 65% quantize strength, the note on would be moved to approx 1.1.4, which might make the sequence sound a little less robotic and more human.
Logic Pro has that feature.
By jahrome
Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:44 pm
The way the MPC swings is one of the reason why it has been so popular for almost 2 decades. Software companies have been trying to duplicate the Akai MPC swing in its products...not vice versa.
Tool Box: Nuendo 4/MPC 2500/Reason 4/Emulator X2/Battery 3/Wave Lab 6
By Red Ketchup
Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:53 pm
Quantize % strength has not really anything to do with swing. It's the amount of quantization applied. Have you ever used the sequencer in a pro DAW? Check out Logic Pro.
By jahrome
Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:07 pm
You are correct about the Quantize % strength. Yes, I have software based DAWs that have this function but I am not that fond of.
What I mean to say and imply..is that the way the MPC works today and yesterday...doesn't need to be messed with. We are still trying to get Akai, JJ, or whoever to return the classic Timiming Correct MENU of past MPCs.
What I mean to say and imply..is that the way the MPC works today and yesterday...doesn't need to be messed with. We are still trying to get Akai, JJ, or whoever to return the classic Timiming Correct MENU of past MPCs.
Tool Box: Nuendo 4/MPC 2500/Reason 4/Emulator X2/Battery 3/Wave Lab 6
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By Red Ketchup
Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:10 pm
MTC works like it should here withe JJ OS. I had problems with it before, but now it's as it should be.
About the quantize %, just because it wasn't there for 20 years means it shouldn't be added. It's a nice feature IMHO.
About the quantize %, just because it wasn't there for 20 years means it shouldn't be added. It's a nice feature IMHO.
By jahrome
Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:13 pm
Possibly...but my vote is no.
As it stands today, the 2500 is not up to par with the MPC 3000 in this regard (Timing Correct menu).
As it stands today, the 2500 is not up to par with the MPC 3000 in this regard (Timing Correct menu).
Tool Box: Nuendo 4/MPC 2500/Reason 4/Emulator X2/Battery 3/Wave Lab 6
By Red Ketchup
Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:18 pm
oh, thought you were talking about Time Code menu...
I don't remember what was better about the 3000 Time Correct menu.
I don't remember what was better about the 3000 Time Correct menu.
By jahrome
Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:35 pm
Time Code menu? How did you come up with that? Time Code menu has to do with MTC, Midi Clock, MMC, etc.
The MPC 3000 has the ability to apply swing to one or all tracks...and also apply note shifts to one or several pads/samples in a track or multiple tracks all in the same menu.
The MPC 3000 has the ability to apply swing to one or all tracks...and also apply note shifts to one or several pads/samples in a track or multiple tracks all in the same menu.
Tool Box: Nuendo 4/MPC 2500/Reason 4/Emulator X2/Battery 3/Wave Lab 6
By Sovereign
Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:04 pm
What the % actually does is move notes relative to GRID so you can actually place things closer or further away from the normal quantize positions.
Go or bad depends on your style of drumming.
As far as the MPC goes is basically the older MPC's had the Timing Correct and Shift Timing available in one screen.
That screen gave the option for duration of time, notes and tracks as well.
Now the 2500 can only do Shift Timing from the Sequencer Editing screen and the Timing Correct screen now does an entire track or selected pads.
In theory you can still accomplish the same task but it's not as straight forward and doesn't vibe with the machine.
Example if you knew you wanted your hats to be 16th's w/ 57% and 2 ticks late, the old MPC allowed you to set your timing that way then play.
On the 2500 you would have to go in after you program them and shift them around from Shift Timing screen.
BUT thanks to the GRID Edit and Quant set to off, you can get drum positioning that on the older MPC's required long drawn out cut and paste in step mode.
Still it's on the list of things that need to be put back, no doubt.
-Old Timing Correct Screen
-XL style Beat Match
-4K CD functions
And can we get a shift function that allows you to select a sample in memory by typing in the name.
Go or bad depends on your style of drumming.
As far as the MPC goes is basically the older MPC's had the Timing Correct and Shift Timing available in one screen.
That screen gave the option for duration of time, notes and tracks as well.
Now the 2500 can only do Shift Timing from the Sequencer Editing screen and the Timing Correct screen now does an entire track or selected pads.
In theory you can still accomplish the same task but it's not as straight forward and doesn't vibe with the machine.
Example if you knew you wanted your hats to be 16th's w/ 57% and 2 ticks late, the old MPC allowed you to set your timing that way then play.
On the 2500 you would have to go in after you program them and shift them around from Shift Timing screen.
BUT thanks to the GRID Edit and Quant set to off, you can get drum positioning that on the older MPC's required long drawn out cut and paste in step mode.
Still it's on the list of things that need to be put back, no doubt.
-Old Timing Correct Screen
-XL style Beat Match
-4K CD functions
And can we get a shift function that allows you to select a sample in memory by typing in the name.
By Red Ketchup
Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:52 pm
jahrome wrote:Time Code menu? How did you come up with that? Time Code menu has to do with MTC, Midi Clock, MMC, etc.
hmmm...re-read one of your previous post maybe?