JJ OS Bug Report

wildstyle72 wrote:that why i dont buy boot-leg shxxt all jj is boot-leg

they drive me nuts with all this boot leg then come our hood and set-up shop

look at china buying africa natural resource

take your money and then set-up shop

Settle Down Guy thats a pretty racist statement.

I thought the MPC was designed in Japan and built in China. What's your point? You choose to pay. Africa chooses to sell out.

lets stop with the Africa comments etc. get back to the bug issues.

ZAM13 wrote:

wildstyle72 wrote:that why i dont buy boot-leg shxxt all jj is boot-leg

they drive me nuts with all this boot leg then come our hood and set-up shop

look at china buying africa natural resource

take your money and then set-up shop

Settle Down Guy thats a pretty racist statement.

What are you talking about?

I think he's saying "the orientals" are taking over the rap game.

I will argue however that Filipino's are the 5th element of hip hop.

haha.... especially how I read the most recent scratch. i didn't know soundtrakk (lupe fiasco's producer) was filipino.

Rozzer wrote:

Mike Feedback wrote:

Rozzer wrote:Of course he's going to use his 1000 code. Why wouldn't he? It would probably take months to re-program all the features he put in the 1000 from scratch. Professional coders re-use code all the time. It makes much more sense to start with the 1000 OS and then adjust it to work with the extra hardware that the 2500 has.

no, actually it makes more sense to start with the 2500 OS and just copy/paste the new features he added to the 1000 from scratch into it. the 2500 was fully functional, and from what i've read a lot of the functions the 2500 was capable of have been crippled due to the fact that the 1000 doesn't have the same hardware and JJ having to program that from scratch.

I couldn't disagree more. The JJ 1000 OS is so different to the Akai OS it would take WAY longer to port over all the new stuff than it would to simply alter the existing code to use a few extra audio and midi outputs. JJ himself obviously chose this route because it was simpler for him, but I guess you know better huh

you're right, it was simpler for JJ, but that's different than making more sense. you changed your story.

my 9-5 is in programming, so i know a thing or two about copying and pasting code. and i certainly know that it makes more sense to take the existing 2500 code and start with that than it does to use his 1000 code.

JJ's 2500 OS is this:

1000 OS + some features of the 2500 implemented by JJ + JJ specific added features

that resulted in some of the functionality of the 2500 not working at all or as intended, and so now JJ has to go back and bug fix things that had already worked in the akai 2500 OS but no longer do, ALONG with the JJ added features that have bugs.

what they should have done is:

2500 OS + JJ specific added features.

then JJ wouldn't have to go back and modify the code to use all 8 outs, all of the midi ports, the number keys, cd drive, etc., which were already implemented successfully in the 2500 OS.

so yes, it is simpler to just copy his 1000 code to the 2500 and hope that it works, but it doesn't make more sense.

they saved time putting out the first version by using the 1000 code, but they're going to kill themselves in time spent on bug fixing. and i can almost guarantee that the time bug fixing is going to be WAY longer than it would have been to "port over all the new stuff" as you put it.

To the guys that actually own MPC 2500s...can you try to reproduce this bug on your systems?

So, I re-installed the JJ OS. Same problem re-surfaced. It crashed my MPC several times. I went through the usual...re-formatting drives and re-initializing. Everytime I tried to load a few sequences, create a song, and then convert the song to a sequence, it crashed my MPC.

So, went through the usualt steps again. This time, I played with the Akai demo sequences. They didn't crash my MPC. Then I re-loaded the previous sequences and repeated the same steps. No crashes.

I just re-installed OS 1.22 and will leave it at that for the time.

jahrome wrote:So, I re-installed the JJ OS. Same problem re-surfaced. It crashed my MPC several times. I went through the usual...re-formatting drives and re-initializing. Everytime I tried to load a few sequences, create a song, and then convert the song to a sequence, it crashed my MPC.

man, i think some of the people here are right, akai's really gunna have to step their game up if they want to compete with JJ. apparently JJ added ctrl+alt+del. i've never been able to automatically restart either of my mpc's. i've always had to turn them off and then back on again.

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So, I re-installed the JJ OS. Same problem re-surfaced. It crashed my MPC several times. I went through the usual...re-formatting drives and re-initializing. Everytime I tried to load a few sequences, create a song, and then convert the song to a sequence, it crashed my MPC.
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Mike Feedback wrote:
man, i think some of the people here are right, akai's really gunna have to step their game up if they want to compete with JJ. apparently JJ added ctrl+alt+del. i've never been able to automatically restart either of my mpc's. i've always had to turn them off and then back on again.
man, i think some of the people here are right, akai's really gunna have to step their game up if they want to compete with JJ. apparently JJ added ctrl+alt+del. i've never been able to automatically restart either of my mpc's. i've always had to turn them off and then back on again.

I had to re-read your post twice because I almost didn't get it.....

jahrome wrote:But I am/was scared.

Strange that an OS would mess up the hardware...

Mike Feedback wrote:

man, i think some of the people here are right, akai's really gunna have to step their game up if they want to compete with JJ. apparently JJ added ctrl+alt+del. i've never been able to automatically restart either of my mpc's. i've always had to turn them off and then back on again.

The problem lies in people not correctly communicating to Akai.
What I mean is a lot of discussion goes on around here but how many people actually contact Akai to complain about or inform them of problems?
JJ's OS has been out for a few now, how many people who have tried have bother to contact Akai and say hey look this fixed the bug I was having why haven't you fixed it?
I'm more inclined to complained to the person I paid my $1595 to than the person who gave me an OS to test.
The real thing is when communicating with Akai do it intelligently or your info goes unheard.
Trust me on this.

A lot of JJ's instabilities stem from the fact that the 1k is not a 2500 and he implemented a lot of key strokes changes to make the 1k have certain features.
Unfortunately they are still lurking in the OS and can cause you problems.

When he offers the for pay 2500 OS it may be a more stable OS, but it will still be a 1k in 2500 clothing so bug free performance may never truly be achieved.

And Red, the OS tells the hardware what to do so any glitch can affect both.
I've seen the JJ OS do what from this point on we shall call the ctrl+alt+del BUG.
That's the perfect name since that's what it look's like.
If it was Windows the Blue screen would have definitely followed.
If you see it happen you will understand why it would scare Jahrome.
Still the sad part remains some are using JJ's OS by choice, but many are doing it because of neccessity.

Again give some usable Akai communication, even if to just say what you like about the JJ or what real problem the Akai OS gives you.

Jahrome, I tried to reproduce your bug. I tried on 4 different projects, and even made a huge song with about 500 bars made from 10 diff sequences, but I had no problems converting them. No crashes. This was using 3.02.

The only time I've had a spontaneous reboot was when I pressed Input thru after doing some audio track recording. I couldn't reproduce that bug either, but I reported it to JJ anyway.

Sorry to hear the problems you had. But thanks for the heads up when JJ shops his wundercode to other mpcs.