MPC, keybord, MIDI conections.

I got some problems, as always.

This time, I got this keyboard/synth from my friend - a Yamaha PSR-540.
And I got two MIDI cables, ready to play tones at my keyboard, into the MPC. One at mpc out to psr in, and the other way.
But i really dont know how to do it. I found the users manual for the keyboard at yamahs homepage, but still - I dont figure it out.

Do anyone here have this keyboard, please help me. Anyone else that think they got a sollution, please tell me.

One more thing, wpuld you buy this keyboard for $130 ? Is it worth it?

Abu

They're going for ~$300 on eBay, so you could be on to a good thing...

I don't know this model, but I have used a similar model. I found a manual at http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/emi ... SR540E.pdf , so that's a good place to start.

It sounds like you're almost there, I suspect the PSR is sending MIDI data on channel 1 by default. If you select a MPC Program on the main page, whatever you play on the PSR should be received by the MPC (it responds to all channels by default).

If you're not hearing anything, it could be that the Program doesn't have sounds mapped to the MIDI notes you're hitting. Most drum kits will respond in the bottom octave (C1-C2), or you could try one of the 5-octave programs I have on my site (linked below) e.g. the RMI Piano.

That PSR sounds like it will be pretty useful as a MIDI controller, e.g. it has a Local Control setting which you may want to try, if you get duplicate notes from it or other strange behaviour. (See MPC1000 manual pg 46 for more details.)

Thanks.

I've been trying to do this for a long time now, and i still not get it! Hmm..

Abu

have you switched to midi instead of drum?

I dont have a 1k but I think the user options are close.......You have to highlight drum1 with the cursor and use the data dail to select midi then set the program number and you should be poppin


hope this gets you going

OKEI!:) I got it, or at last some of it.
Now I can controll my sounds, that are IN the mpc, with my keyboard. But after much work, it stil dont know how to play sounds (GM & XG) that are in the keyboard, into my mpc! Is that possible?

With that midi clock etc, I could play basses etc into my drumloops on my MPC, right??
Please help:)

Abu

This might help you:

rtsp://realaudio2.mindspring.com/webhos ... Preview.rm

mpcabu wrote:OKEI!:) I got it, or at last some of it.
Now I can controll my sounds, that are IN the mpc, with my keyboard. But after much work, it stil dont know how to play sounds (GM & XG) that are in the keyboard, into my mpc! Is that possible?



Abu

It is triggering the drums thru the midi hook up.......but in order for you to touch the pad and you get sounds from your keyboard you have to select midi at the bottom of the screen

Well.

It did help me a little bit!! Now I can play the sounds that ARE in the keyboard, with my pads on the MPC. But i still dont figure out how to play on the keyboard, and hear the sounds thru my MPC.

Its kind of going the wrong way, I can use the pads insted of my keyboard to play the sounds I have choosen from the keyboard. But what I really want to do is to play the keyboard, and get the sounds INTO my MPC, and keep it there when I have recorded it.

More help? hehe

Abu

Are you talking about playing the keyboard and triggering the sounds in the 1k? Or are you talking about playing a melody and sampling it into the 1k to program it in sequences...........If you are talking of the first option all you have to do is.........turn the volume down on the keyboard........set the mpc to drum.......then find the key that matches the mpc pad you want to play

Im talking about playing sounds in the keyboard, and sample it into my mpc. But I want to to it thru midi, because I now that you some way can match the timing (as in timing corect), so the basses(for example) will go in a loop as all the other sounds in my mpc.

So, what im saying, is that i want to sample the keyboard sounds into my MPC thru MIDI.

Abu

cant do that......the most you could do would be a sample dump but that would only be one tone...........your best bet would be to set the number of bars you wanna work with and then set the channel to midi and then start recording on the mpc and play the keyboard how you want and then when you stop.....press play and it will play back.........

Dosent work.

Would you please take you time to ecplain how to set ut my gear. Do I have to fix anything in my mpc to make it ready to sample from the keyboard.

I really got problems with this. And I have to tell the seller if I want it or not tomorrow.

Thanks

Abu.

I'm having a bit of a problem with my effects on ma mpc 1K. It seems that although I can use both effects at the same time, i can only set a volume(for how much effect) to one of them on the mixer page! Does anyone else have this problem?

mpcabu wrote:Im talking about playing sounds in the keyboard, and sample it into my mpc. But I want to to it thru midi, because I now that you some way can match the timing (as in timing corect), so the basses(for example) will go in a loop as all the other sounds in my mpc.

So, what im saying, is that i want to sample the keyboard sounds into my MPC thru MIDI.

Abu

Abu, here's what to do:

First, you don't necessarily have to change the track type to 'MIDI' for playing things realtime. You DO have to set the MPC track MIDI field to a channel your keyboard will recognize. The difference between the 'MIDI' and 'DRUM' types is what information gets saved in the sequencer when you are recording. 'MIDI' saves MIDI info, 'DRUM' saves pad info.

Second, I think what you're asking is how to create tightly timed basslines on your MPC using sounds from your keyboard. You said you can trigger sounds on your keyboard using your MPC, so...

1) play the bassline on the keyboard using the MPC as a controller. once you know what it to sound like
2) set the track to 'MIDI' and record your performance on the MPC. This will save only the midi information, but when you play it it back, it will trigger the bassline on your keyboard
3) connect the analog outputs of your keyboard to the record inputs of the mpc; hit play on the mpc, go the record function, record the bassline on your MPC. you'll need to trim the beginning and end, but there's your bassline, perfect timing

I have to wonder though (if this is what you're trying to do), why? You'll be stuck with the same tempo of the bassline on the MPC - not very flexible. If I were you, I'd follow Phatz' advice and sample the individual keyboard sounds into the MPC; then record the track on the MPC and time correct it. The MPC basically uses MIDI for the timing of it's own pads and samples, so it will be tight AND you'll have a lot more flexibility.

OH WAIT, you could do one more thing. If you want to do all this live, you could play the keyboard and output the MIDI information to the MPC while the MPC is recording/time correcting. At the same time have the MPC configured to play back samples on the keyboard; when the loop finishes recording on the MPC, overdub will kick in and begin playing back the samples on the keyboard using the MIDI information from the MPC. This would be great for a live performance if you really want your keyboard as the controller...

Hmm. Thanks. I understand what your saying. But I'm not sure why you say that I shouldnt play the basses (etc) in my keyboard, and record it real time to my MPC. (?)

I got over 700 sounds on my keyboard, all i want to do is: PRESS RECORD AT MY MPC, AND PLAY THE BASSES OR SYNTH FROM MY KEYBOARD, AND MAKE IT TIGHT (because of the correct timing alternaticve in my MPC)
It shouldnt be so hard, but!!

Im not interrested in controlling the sounds in my MPC from the keyboard, and not the other way either. All I want is to record keyboard sounds in realtime into my MPC. Are you guys with me?
It's kind of hard for me, because I dont read very good english (from Norway), and I dont have a manual for the keyboard (but I dont think I have to do any special things there either!)

Thanks for all the help, I'm kind of lost here. I'm more of a music guy than technicians..

Abu