Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By Antonym Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:13 pm
here's a little hint on maximizing your drum programs for use in 16 pad grid edit.

i will walk you through it using samples from a chopped-break, but you can use any drum sounds if you chose em well enough.

first: remember these pads. 1, 6, 11, and 16. a difference of five every time. why is this important? because it is a diagonal line from 1 to 16, bottom left to top right.

also, it's because there are usually four predominant drums in a hip hop drumkit: kick, snare, hat, and cym. 1, 6, 11, and 16 respectively.

i like setting them that way, but really, you can do it in many ways. the principle that must be shared no matter how you do it though is that they must "grouped," ie bottom 4 pads are kicks, next 4 are snares, next 4 are hats, next 4 are misc. and cyms.

why group them horizontally rather than vertically? because of grid edit. grid edit lays out the pads from 1-16, top to bottom.

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16

right? the y axis of grid is pad, the x axis is time.

now having set up your drum program the way i just showed you, you have the grid GROUPED conveniently. so rather than having your kicks on like...1, 5, 9 and 13, vertical, you have them on 1-4. this creates a Block of Kicks on the grid. see the diagram below of both scenarios.

1 - kick
2
3
4
5 - kick
6
7
8
9 - kick
10
11
12
13 - kick
14
15
16

(vertical assignment of kicks to first column of pads)

1 - kick
2 - kick
3 - kick
4 - kick
5 -
6 -
etc

(horizontal assignment of kicks to bottom row of pads)

this helps maximize the grid and helps you know intuitively which grid space means what. since there is no horizontal marking, it's kind of difficult to be able to look ahead and read the grid - this technique helps because you can group the y axis.

more on this later, i've got to go.
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By alien_brain Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:06 pm
you really love your mpc i can tell. they should start callin you the mpcologist!

By rogue scrunt Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:35 pm
that is how i naturally set my pads up, since i had my first mpc 60.

thanks nym.

nym is a soon to be ascended master
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By Antonym Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:01 pm
that is how i naturally set my pads up, since i had my first mpc 60.


man, lucky you. i used to do it vertically, so

kick snare hat cym
kick snare hat cym
kick snare hat cym
kick snare hat cym

which was good for index finger drumming, which was all my undeveloped mind could figure out. however, when i changed, i heard my drum programming change too! my kicks started being syncopated more, while the rest of the drums have more of a flex and feel to them. when i release something new, people will be able to compare it to edge city and if they use a 1k they'll hear exactly what happened.

By jhs Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:50 pm
i just recently learned this. it really opens up the 16 pads. i'm in love with 4 bar breaks that have good 16th as i can reprogram them on the fly. being able to 'visualize' your location in the break while you're rearranging is a great tip not only for breaks but for working with the mpc in general.
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By Antonym Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:09 am
yeah man it really helps