Reviews and questions about the entry-level MPC500
By earwolf Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:46 am
ok its been a minute - how you feeling this? thanks to anyone that takes a sec to answer, if thisbad boy drops to $500 in the jan sales i'm all over it

1. has it changed the way you write beats etc or is the portability a gimmick to you?

2. aside from some pad layout and vol issues is it easy to move projects around to the 1k and 2500?

3. hows the build quality and battery life? any pad issues yet?

4. overall do you find it limiting or inspiring?

cheers

By hazeltine Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:52 am
1. has it changed the way you write beats etc or is the portability a gimmick to you?

it is a neat machine. it's a bit limited but then again it does loads more things than anyone could have dreamed a battery operated machine could have done 10 years ago. 2 effect sends, master effects, filters on every voice, being able to load multiple programs and a mpc sequencer all in this box is pretty amazing.

2. aside from some pad layout and vol issues is it easy to move projects around to the 1k and 2500?

only have the 500 so have not tried.

3. hows the build quality and battery life? any pad issues yet?

it feels and acts solid. it's much heavier than i thought it would be so that's gotta be good for build quality. the pads feel a little harder to hit than i remember my 2000 from a few years ago.

4. overall do you find it limiting or inspiring?

limiting in a good way and definitely inspiring. it's not missing all that much either. after a few hours with it the menus and params started becoming second nature. it's definitely an "on the fence" kind of buy, but i'm glad i bought one. but if you already own a mpc i would seriously think about how much is the portability really an issue? the 500 is my only mpc and i travel a lot, so it's a fun thing to have with me.
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By Upright Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:17 pm
1. Yeah...It has changed the way I make tracks, simply because I'm at an Mpc more now, so I'm constantly getting more comfortable with using Mpc's.

I would definitely say that the portability has a very applicable use.

Users like Hazeltine that are always traveling will benifit most from the 500. For a guy like myself it's great too.....I have friends that have studios, so being able to take the 500 with me for a colab has really proven the unit useful for me. I take it anywhere I know I going to be sitting around.


2.Cake. Although I have ran into some problems going from the 2500 to 500,but this was easily worked out( remove the All file from the 2500 project and everything transfer to the 500 without any issuses)
but again, going from the 500 to the 2500 there are no problems at all.


3.The battery life is actually awesome!!1 I think you'll find it better than you were expecting. I usually sit down at the 500 for 2 or 3 hours at a time.I go through 1 set of batteries about every 3 to 4 sittings. I use rechargable batteries....they work great and charge in 15 min!!1
No pad issuses here.

4. Definitely inspiring.....you won't be disappointed.

Enjoy. :D
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By Yoshimi Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:23 pm
earwolf wrote:ok its been a minute - how you feeling this? thanks to anyone that takes a sec to answer, if thisbad boy drops to $500 in the jan sales i'm all over it

1. has it changed the way you write beats etc or is the portability a gimmick to you?

2. aside from some pad layout and vol issues is it easy to move projects around to the 1k and 2500?

3. hows the build quality and battery life? any pad issues yet?

4. overall do you find it limiting or inspiring?

cheers


1. No, my beats come out exactly the same way as if I made them on my 1000. I've always been a big fan of battery powered devices...despite their perceived gimmickry.

2. Yes.

3. Build quality is excellent IMHO... suprisingly solid. No pad issues.

4. I find it to be neither limiting or inspiring.
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By stefski Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:38 pm
earwolf wrote:ok its been a minute - how you feeling this? thanks to anyone that takes a sec to answer, if thisbad boy drops to $500 in the jan sales i'm all over it

1. has it changed the way you write beats etc or is the portability a gimmick to you?

2. aside from some pad layout and vol issues is it easy to move projects around to the 1k and 2500?

3. hows the build quality and battery life? any pad issues yet?

4. overall do you find it limiting or inspiring?

cheers


I've had mine powered on for two hours now! Damn it feels good to be back on an MPC. It is my only MPC right now. I've been on the XL, then the 1K which I sold right before the (official) OS development took off. Getting the 0.5K wasn't really planned but I'm quickly learning to love this baby. Some first round impressions:

1. I just realized that a lot of my other equipment is gonna get sampled and stand untouched for a moment. .. No way that the portability factor is anywhere near gimmicky. I'm wholeheartedly set on bringing this baby over to my friend's place. My friends and I used to just do dinner, now I'm gonna sample their records :twisted: and finally get around to lay that track down together.

2. Well, the only exchange I've had so far was with my Macbook Pro which was jsut as instant and hassle free as expected. I can't see how the 'missing' row of pads could become an issue compability-wise, there are editors out there to get your programs sorted. As far as something as PP goes (not that I ever used it, or a 2500 for that matter) there's some rudimentary import functions for it on the 500 (I mean it gets mentioned in the manual and it apparently does the trick of importing said format...) You'll get around to aall that stuff pretty easy especially when starting things off on the 500 I guess. Navigating feels just like on the 1000 which convinced me that I'm gonna use my 500 to finalize a lot of projects.

3. I was expecting a lot more plasticy feel but this thing is seriously solid. I mean to the point were you can't tell a difference in quality between the Macbook Pro I'm typing on and my little sampler friend next to me. Screen not an issue - bright, ultra sleek with a great distinct blue shine. I love how they crammed certain double digit numbers into one LCD slot. This baby has nice attention to detail. I was a littlce concerned initially when I was just jamming along to the demo songs (yeah I did enjoy that :oops:) and caught the transport buttons in action. I've got huge hands but after figuring out how to play a little more precise that's honestly not gonna be an issue. Remember now I've only been back in the MPC mix for a couple of hours...

4. I feel it to be a very inspiring to work with MPCs but I've never really considered them great live tools. I mean somehow it mostly comes down to a lot of track muting (ok that's harsh but it's real if you listen to some people who bring their's live). That said this might just become an exception: it's ultra-portable and packs a lot of juice compared to its siblings (and their respective size). I'm definately gonna bring it commuting - even for short trips it makes sense. And then again just have it to kick back in the sofa. I was really glad not having to worry about the 500 sporting batteries at the same time as the AC adaptor is plugged in.

Lemme say this on the navigation: the slimmed down controls haven't bothered me the least. Editing samples I know I'm not gonna have a problem with - the down-tuning-for-editing-idea was a great piece of advice that I believe everyone on a 500 need to take to their hearts.

Filters are still a great disappointment though.. damn I didn't feel a thing tweaking it. I remember seeing my man doing that thing on the 3000 and I just ran home tryin to do the same thing on my 1000 and it just sucked to hear how weak sauce it was. I suppose a lot of added EQ:ing willt have to do the trick on the 500 as well. I don't mind, I've honestly come to find the cheesy aspect of a lot of the effects to be pretty cool. Hah like I said I even dug some of the demo songs ("Sunny" is my jam and also the victim of an instant remix). If I need effects paradise for my samples I'll just go to my Machinedrum UW, Suppercollider or Ableton.

Another thing I noticed despite not having any navigational issues is I did kind of start to look around for the mixer. Hey you know this already - you can easily just build songs using proper velocity and keeping in mind to undo that poor performance so you have every track feelin good level-wise from the get go. Step edit kind of hurts initially working it from the mini screen. Shouldn't be long before that gets easy as well. I can't remembed ever using buttons to navigate to the next event :?:, now I just found it by chance sort of and that was fun. It's gonna make things a lot easier. Generally speaking I have yet to miss the bigger screen. I specifically considered this when switching between the main sequence window and the track window. To begin with the blue LCD is a lot more distinct than the green of the 1000. Second, and I'm sure you'll get around to feeling the same way, the second you start looking for something your fingers are gonna feel their way to the proper button. You'll get there, literally, in the wink of an eye. Which sort of eliminates the need to have any more information cluttered into the same screen. You'll make the info pop onto the screen when you need it.

I need to say this on the manual too: you wouldn't see a manual this well written say when the XL dropped. Overall product support and web support has gotten a lot better. This is getting very general but I can't see why anyone is complaining about Numark getting in the mix. I feel it saved the MPC line's sorry ass :P

This will be kick ass to bring to the club just for stupid bomb drops DJing, and it will be perfect for the Maldives, Paris and for looking like an idiot on the subway. :D

This is not a toy. Those who do call it that make really vague assumptions of what can be done with this piece of equipment. I mean similarily, I wouldn't call Bhaji Loops gimmicky just because it's portable and I wouldn't call Garageband gimmicky because it isn't Logic Pro. Make up your own mind.

It's not all black and white.

Actually, it's all black with a clear blue screen and grey, perfectly triggering little pads. Cop one.
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By Upright Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:28 am
stefski wrote:
Lemme say this on the navigation: the slimmed down controls haven't bothered me the least. Editing samples I know I'm not gonna have a problem with - the down-tuning-for-editing-idea was a great piece of advice that I believe everyone on a 500 need to take to their hearts.


I never thought of this, but you better believe it's well noted. :wink:

By earwolf Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:14 am
these replies are totally on point, many thanks all.

I can see me picking up the 500 for my travels, and later down the road trading my 1k for a 2500, as long as the 2500 gets all of the JJ goodness and not just some. the 1k is dope but for the studio i'm digging the better ergonomics, plus the prices should be better by then. or maybe the 3500 will be out - wonder what thats gonna bring?
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By strength Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:16 am
stefski wrote:
Editing samples I know I'm not gonna have a problem with - the down-tuning-for-editing-idea

? i must have missed that. can somebody summerize what thats all about?
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By stefski Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:13 am
Here you go:

http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=62445

algorithm18 wrote:What I used to do back in the S2000 days is tune the sample you're trimming all the way down. Really helps with the fine adjustments.
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By strength Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:05 pm
stefski wrote:Here you go:

http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=62445

algorithm18 wrote:What I used to do back in the S2000 days is tune the sample you're trimming all the way down. Really helps with the fine adjustments.


o ok i figured thats what u were talkin about but wasnt sure