canfused about whut to buy

hi i want to make hip hop music and im using fl studio 4 right now and i want to upgrade to sum hardware.see im confused about wether i should get a workstation keyboard like the triton or motif with an mpd 16 to punch in drums or a mpc with a midi board with mad sounds to key in the synth,actually im not even sure if thats possible , if i could load sound s into the mpc and trigger them with a midi keyboard ill prolly go for that setup if , can u offer some suggestions and tell me the pros and cons, i been reseraching for song long and still dont know what to get i dont want to makea fiften hundred dollar mistake you know, thanks peace

A good triton will be more than a $1500 mistake

I've only used an MPC2000XLSE so it's all I can attest to -

Honestly, those are all different things you're mentioning. The triton is a workstation, all in one sorta thing. It's a sampler, synth, sequencer, etc. The motif is pretty much the same thing as far as I know, then you have the MPC. The mpc is used for midi production, sample editing, sequencing, sampled drums, and some other misc. sampling. It doesnt have a synthesizer, and the MPC2000 doesnt have stock effects but its generally the brains of your setup. It's what is going to communicate to the rest of your hardware to tell it what to do via midi.

The MPC2000 is not a full fledged sampler. You're not going to load 700 different vocal,string,etc samples into it to play at once like you would with, say, a nord lead 3. It's pretty limited as far as lengthy samples go, supporting only 32 megs of memory (which if I remember correctly, translates to 2 minutes of stereo @ 44.1khz, or 4 minutes of mono). But for drums, it's fscking excellent. The sequencer is pretty good and the menu system is straight forward. Yes, you can plug in a keyboard and trigger the drums. In fact this is generally better than using the built in pads because they are uber sensitive and often produce unwanted results.

In short the mpc is REALLY good to use as a sampled drum machine, generally really good for a master midi controller, really bad if you want time dependent effects like delay/echo/slicer, or filters like cutoff and resonance and dont want to use an external device (onboard filtering sucks butt), and really bad if you want to have entire track vocals or a bunch of length samples stored to play back. When my friends come over to hang out, the MPC is generally what they get stuck on. Its really fun, and I think that means more than if you had a boring piece of something better.

my 2 cents

bk

cop you a Midi Production, Drum Machine, Sampler, Sequencer all in one MPC 2000XL (or whatever model you prefer or can afford)

a keyboard if you like the hands on feel of playing music rather then clicking software

a turntable some vinyl for sounds, (or be all digital like me MP3's / CD's and dirty soundz up)

i got patnas that dj with vinyl & 1200's and they will record to mp3 and shot me something if its old school

i am mentioning about the options to obtain sounds so much because your machine will be awesome but it doesn't come with sounds

and really that's a good thing, you never have to worry about it "sounding outdated"

(by the way the MPC 1000, it comes with sounds)

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well actually i didnt mean complete songs as in with vocals and effects and all of that pretty much i just wanted to know if i could maybe load a sample disk with motif sounds into the mpc then play the synths out on my keyboard and have the samples be trigered when i play , same with the bass and whatnot ,pretty much i mean complete beats not containing vocals or anything like that, i wouldnt wanna punch in the drums with my keyboard if i had it tho i do that now and it blows thats like one of the things the mpc is famous for the pads but if u guys could get back to me and let me know about triggering those synths sounds with a keyboard please let me know and if sum of you arent busy sumtime id apreciate it if you aimed me on: loo2004ep and talk to me about the mpc thanks

the 2000xl can do this easily. the others you have to manually multisample and put each note on a pad to play chnromatically from a keyboard.

does the mpc come with any type of delay effects on it like reverb or do u need that chip that costs 330 bucks

yeah you need the effects board. but most producers do they tweaking, mixing, and effects with programs like Sound Forge 6, Wavelab, Cool Edit Pro 2.0, ........ and the list goes on.

(i don't think the effects board is that expensive, but however much it cost most people don't think it's worth it.)

what do u guys suggest for a board to go along with the mpc sumthin around 700 beans

Motif rack. Triton rack (tritons are nice if you know how to tweak them). Proteus 2600.

those are more like 1200 beans

elmacaco wrote:the 2000xl can do this easily. the others you have to manually multisample and put each note on a pad to play chnromatically from a keyboard.

Yo, el, u talkin bout using Auto Chrome? Does it work right where u could actually play it out note for note? Just wonderin

Yup, I haven't used it that much, as I don't own an XL, but I've seen it done plenty, and it seems to work well. Although with one sample it will chipmunk real quick.

elmacaco wrote:Yup, I haven't used it that much, as I don't own an XL, but I've seen it done plenty, and it seems to work well. Although with one sample it will chipmunk real quick.

I do it alot. It works well with synth sounds, strings, pianos. SOON as you put like say a vocal or something like that on it, it gets all chipmunky when pitched up too high, it's unnatural. Certain sounds are cool though, certain sounds are not. All banks 1-4 are used. pad a-1 is the lowest key and pad d-16 is the highest key.

i bought an mpc 1000 today

Excellent choice. Now get a small cheap midi keyboard and get at it. Load some piano samples on the MPC and play them via that midi keyboard thingamajiggy and your set.