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XL or 2500

By NERO Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:19 am
Has anyone notice when you switched from the XL to the 2500 your drums sound real weak and different?My drums use to sound mad hard on the XL and they sound crazy on the 2500 some good and some bad




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By episode Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:38 am
check your mixer and effect settings on the 2500. your saved project settings on your XL may not necessarily be the same loaded on to the 2500.

By roxstar Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:32 pm
Is your 2500 connected the same way as the XL? Look at the global settings and make sure the master level is set to -6db. I think it may come shipped at -12 (or even -24) making the overall sound a lot lower than expected. My drums knock hard, if not harder than the XL's did, especially with the normalize.. :)
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By Groove66 Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:26 pm
Its just a case of the basic conversion D-A's in both units.

I own both the XL and the 2500 as well as my lovely 4000. I agree that the 2500 lacks the fuller midrange tone of the 2000XL, and the 2500 also has a softer, more relaxed scooped sound over the XL - no doubt. The Xl does have sharper transients.

Eq is the only way to add balls to the 2500, and that is not a bad thing.

By ZAM13 Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:34 pm
The Eq is your friend , You can come pretty close to any sound with it. I tend to roll off the high end and lowend a bit and with a small dip in the 250 to 500 area then boost the mid.
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By Humblestar1 Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:32 pm
Funny you should all mention what you have.

I've found that i'm not keen on the 'Out of the Box' sound of the 2500 the way I like my 60...however..it's a little unfair of me to compare the 2.

Then again, the suggestions from Zam, Groove & Roxy are sterling ideas...thats exactly what i've found myself doing....Master Out put set to -6dB to compensate power...then a little High roll off & mid to low Boost...

I rarely use EQ in my early stages as I like to keep sound sculpting to a minimum til i have the meat n bones of a beat KNOCKIN'...then the fun starts...

I guess it's all ways of working....

More power to US!!!

H*
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By DJ-T Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:55 pm
also ,some mods in here don't seem to believe that the >XL sounds the same as the 2500 ,but I beg to differ. I've had the XL,played and recorded with the 3000,60,and the 60ii.And the AD's to DA converters settings are different.Not that I don't know how to tweak the 1000 or 25and 4K. 8)
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By Cod Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:26 pm
I agree that was the first thing I noticed when I started using a 2500 - all my beats did sound different. The 2k has a nice upfront, present midrange quality to it .. so i still havent sold my 2kxl's.

Its like everything really - takes a bit of getting used to.. Ive really got into the 2500, its a great machine.. all the projects ive started on it sound great..

One other thing that got me though.. I always used the Zone function on the 2kxl to chop loops etc, but the 2500 appears to not recognise properly the zone chopped samples cos it leaves extra bits on the end.. weird. so most of my imported 2kxl beats sound wrong..

By soundasleep Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:27 pm
i remember when the 2000 came out and everyone that used a 3000 said it was a toy, sounded like shit, had bad feel, etc. now the 2000 users say the same about the new shit... whatever. make music.

By infinitskills_villain Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:53 pm
I had to work twice on the 2500, i got to say that i hate that ****.
(as i'm a 2000xl user, and i will stick to it.) :wink:

By 1987 Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:51 pm
There's an easy solution to these plastic beats. Learn to work with vintage gear/proffesional forgotten, ancient stuff.

Personally, I don't see why ppl buy new stuff like the mpc2500. Everything we need really can be found in the 2000, 60, 3000. Great gear.
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By krang Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:13 am
^ yeah. I think the whole " this sampler sounds this that sampler sounds that" thing is overrated. I believe it is mostly just in peoples heads. After hearing 1000 times that whatever sampler sounds like whatever, you begin to believe it. If classic primo or rza beats were made on newer samplers it would be the same thing. I'm not saying there is no difference at all, but motherfukers think vintage gear works miracles.

i think too many features and wack samples is what makes beats sound too plastic.
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By respect_mbs Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:47 am
1987 wrote:There's an easy solution to these plastic beats. Learn to work with vintage gear/proffesional forgotten, ancient stuff.

Personally, I don't see why ppl buy new stuff like the mpc2500. Everything we need really can be found in the 2000, 60, 3000. Great gear.


I dont see how someone would be content with just 1 low pass filter. Work the 2500...it aint no joke.
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By RealWorldDealings Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:57 am
soundasleep wrote:i remember when the 2000 came out and everyone that used a 3000 said it was a toy, sounded like ****, had bad feel, etc. now the 2000 users say the same about the new ****... whatever. make music.


TRUE STORY....lots of dudes said it was "thin", "flat"..., now years later, its "fat" and "crunchy".....
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