Sampling off old records

For sure an Mpc 2000 is te best for making hip hop beats so I was wondering. Does anyone on this board just have an mpc 2000 and a wall room full of over like 300 records and a turnable? If you are one of thoses that only has an mpc 2000, records and a turnable how do you usually start? the bass first, the loop? If anyone has a link to their mp3s and has sampled off old records then give me a shout by replying or email me at [email protected]

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I have more then just an mpc but alot of the time I PREFER to use the mpc alone.  its also the best way to get a grip on the mpc's functions.
I sample what I want to first, here i'll xplain.
my music starts when I hear a sound I think would bee cool in a song, be it a bass loop, a drum loop and instrument sample, guitar etc.  I find that, sample it then start to play with it, change the pitch, filter efx etc, when I have an Idea of how I want the song to build around the part i have, i add drums, then other sounds, bass, etc. to build up the sounds I have around the original sample.[/color]

Im' deejaying for a long time and got a little vynil collection (about 600-700, don't know exactly) of hip hop, funk, jazz, reggae, blues , jungle/druù'n'bass, garage and so... it's some special sounds like a nice bassline, a nice keyboard sound or whatever which gives me ideas.
But in my opinion the mpc alone isn't as good for making a whole track. For the mixdown and the fx, i'd rather use a computer.[/color]

stick it together in the MPC, get it rocking nicely and then track it into a computer.
My first EP is pretty much all samples with tonnes of layers. I usually start with a bassline or guiatr/keys part, chop it into individual notes then play it back and mess around finding variations, add a chopped drum part I bang in on the pads, when it's all nicely locked together and you have 2 or 4 bars of looping groove i just leave it playing for an hour or so and just start cutting records in ontop auditioning them with the turntable and pitching them to workout speed or harmony. sample the part then and play it in again.
keep going til you have a load of parts and arrange.
I'm normally stracking about 10 different sources to make a final track

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I use the MPC 2000 as my main workhorse.  There's more than one way I approach things.  First, on my good days (I wish were everyday)  I start with chopping drums and then layer with samples, whether it be bass, guitar, percussion, and fitting as many samples that work then concentrate on breaking things down from there so the beat sounds full, but not crowded.  "Full" meaning all the frequencies are there from high - mid- to low.  And I'll have a beat down in a couple of hours.  But that doesn't happen all the time.  Sometimes I'll start something and search for hours to find one thing that fits.  If something sounds cool to sample, sample it.  If it doesn't work out with what you have then it might work later on the chorus, intro, or whatever.  But I used to have days where I would listen to a drumbeat I made and can't find jack that fits.  When that happens I turn off my MP, chill and listen to my records.  Somedays I put a side just to listen to records and keep a note of the sounds I would like to sample and put them aside 'til I start production.[/color]

Having lots of records around helps me vibe to create  something, even if i end up sampling myself playing from a module or something loaded on the s3000xl...I still got the smell of about 2000 records to comfort me...

I've been to hip hop studios with not a piece of vinyl in sight....not cozy.

And i always work around the drums....[/color]

Dude,I got an MPC 2000 XL, had it for about 2-3 years and can come close to finishing a whole song on it. Not that thats very spectacular or anything but , if you dont have access to nice recording equipement, like a computer, then just keep on workin with what you got and you'll soon see that you can do it without anything else. The More I work with this machine, the less I want any other gear....KIT: 2000XL, around 100 records gemini table and mixer......When you think your at your ends....take a breather and come back twice as fresh![/color]

All I gots is MPC200XL and records. It's all about the drums, either looped or chopped. That's the backbone. The other layers of sounds can be sped up or slowed down to match the drums. If the drums don't sound right then the song don't sound right[/color]

Sag One, I totally agree. I have the 2000xl and almost nothing else. I've had the machine now for 6 months and what I've found out is excatly what Sag just said, if the drums don't work, the track don't work. That is why I collect breaks and buy new vinyl as often as my account allows [/color]

I only have a MPC, 1 turntable,  a real crap old disco mixer, and lost of old records and it does me fine. My beats dont seem to pund as hard as I like and my sounds are a little flat/thin, so Im thing about starting to record my MPC  track by track into logic and then EQing/or adding FX to them.

But Iv made nearly 100 beats on Just my MPC, and thing I will continue this way for a while.
If you have ever hard of a group called THE CREATORS, their lp THE WEIGH was mad ONLY using a mpc....FACT..

Ohh. I always start with drums>

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just to answer that last post - yeah "the weight" LP was made on MPC2ks with additional bass on an old roland keyboard - dx7?? stuff prior was made on an ASR 10...

anyways, creator, si spex taught me to sample and shiz on his MP' and if you like thier sound  - that kinda "late artifacts - the ultimate" kinda thing - then the MP can really help you get the "bump" you need...

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mr burns is retarded looking , why did i have to see him so big anyways just me and wax and a mpc a turntable and amixer and speakers thats all u need and some type off media 2 save on thats the way

I'm old school, I have about 3000 records, rare grooves for days....nobody can tell you how to make beats, you're not gonna do too well with it that way, it's art, not science...the MPC2000 and records is all you need, a s2000 is a cheap alternative to a "real" keyboard, I got one for $150 and just finished importing all the Triton sounds to it....

I mainly use vinyl as the source for all my sounds. I have a couple synths and a few drum sample cds, but I usually only use those to layer and fatten sounds I got off of vinyl. I keep my record collection around 1000, anything bigger takes up too much room. Don't feel like you have to spend a lot of dough on rare soul records. Just go down to the bargain 99cent bin (or 50cent is better) and get stuff that might have the kind of sounds you're looking for. When you're listening to records or the radio, always be listening for open drum hits, open instrument samples, etc.
Learn how to use your "zone" slice function. When you chop stuff, you can turn something thats not funky into something funky. You don't have to buy records with funky stuff already on it.

im really digging my setup i've been working with since the beginning of the year....Dell Laptop, Mbox w/protools, MPC, MS2000 synth, records. Im working with Acid and Soundforge on the PC, but its nice to have everything compact, no more inputs or outputs than neccessary. The laptop is perfect for storing and archiving samples, until I want to work with them on the mpc or in acid.