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By sensewondah Thu Mar 25, 2004 12:59 am
would adding a sub whoofer to a pair of monitors give you an accurate bass response from a mixing standpoint? i feel like it would throw off your mixdown.
anyone with a sub worked into their monitor setup. im more concerned with an accurate mixdown then some pounding shit.

i could be trippin. anyones input is appreciated
peace fam
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By Smoove03 Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:09 am
i think it would. but i still say its not a bad idea. just get it, mix a test track or 2. listen on different systems (cars, stereos, boombox..). tweak what u need to tweak. find the perfect mix.

the subs might make you think there's enough bass or maybe too much, but on someone else's system there may not be enough or whateva. ya digg?

i unno, hope i helped. good luck
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By dudum Thu Mar 25, 2004 4:55 pm
i work with a sub/tweet set up for mixing but not always mix down.

IMO if you're doing any automation i wouldn't recommend it, but if it's a straight level mixdown you can get it pretty accurate with a sub, just roll around with it and check it at a friends like sensewondah said.

By cashstill Thu Mar 25, 2004 8:54 pm
In Hip Hop music it's alwayz good to have a Sub in the studio.
(especially in the 808 South)

If catz want to hear a track you made, they want to "feel" the track also.
The only thing that's going to help deliver the lows in the manner negreos want to hear it is a sub, ya dig.

Now, I wouldn't reccommend during the mixing stages though.
Playback, yes. Mixing, ummmmm not really.

Outkast got Subs in Stankonia and the engineer uses them during the mix. But they know what the hell they doing to the 10th degree.

By Toecutter Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:16 am
I think you'd be better off getting one of those things that lets you switch between multiple sets of monitors and have a home speaker setup on one, with a sub and the regular studio monitors and compare/contrast to how it would sound to the average listener in their home envoronment.

By Philotronik Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:07 am
don do woofe

it fakes ur sound

master it normally (spliff set up) n try to push it up to +2db and its bassy

ckeck out the technic of track bouncing

bounce the bass and it will smash ur face
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By Smoove03 Fri Mar 26, 2004 2:05 pm
Philotronik wrote:don do woofe

it fakes ur sound

master it normally (spliff set up) n try to push it up to +2db and its bassy

ckeck out the technic of track bouncing

bounce the bass and it will smash ur face




i thought bouncing lowers quality :?

By jontakiff Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:11 pm
Only you can answer that question, because the ability to have a mix translate well depends on your room, your speakers, your ears, and how well you know your speakers. I used to use NS 10's and it probably took me 2 years to figure out how the mix should sound on those speakers in that room so that it would translate. What problem are you having exactly? Is it like, when you think you have the mix right, then you play em somewhere else and the bass is totally different than what you expect? What kind of speakers do you already have?

Again I can't say subs aren't the move, but there are things you can do with your current setup. Can you put soundproofing on the walls? How bout where you sit in relation to the speakers? there should be an equilateral triangle between your head and speakers, about 4 feet of distance from each point. Here's a tip - keep samples of good sounding records on your mpc pads, when you're mixing compare versus the records. Note what level the bass is at on the record. If you try all that but still have trouble making a mix translate, it could be that your monitors just suck and adding a sub might just be a band aid solution.

By jontakiff Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:14 pm
Philotronik wrote:don do woofe

it fakes ur sound

master it normally (spliff set up) n try to push it up to +2db and its bassy

ckeck out the technic of track bouncing

bounce the bass and it will smash ur face


I think he's talking about bouncing and then layering the second bass track with the first...
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By Smoove03 Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:17 pm
jontakiff wrote:
Philotronik wrote:don do woofe

it fakes ur sound

master it normally (spliff set up) n try to push it up to +2db and its bassy

ckeck out the technic of track bouncing

bounce the bass and it will smash ur face


I think he's talking about bouncing and then layering the second bass track with the first...



gotcha. :twisted:
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By sensewondah Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:08 pm
well, my monitors arent the problem. its my mixing envoirnment. my computer desk isnt optimal for speaker placement and the room that i mix in is HUGE and OPEN. completely awful. the sound gets out about 5 feet and then is lost.

i have m audio bx8's. they run about 500 bucks. beautiful sound. its my room. unfortunately, for now. this is the room that they have to be in.

i can mix without subs easily, its just a novelty really. i dont want to drop a nice chunk of change on a novelty if its gonna **** up my mixes.

thanks for everyones advice. i think ill pass on em.