New OS for the classic version?

since it's said that the 2000 probably can't run timestretch, i'd still like to see folder support

asciibaron wrote:there is only one thing i want in the 2000XL, a feature that was promised and never delivered - a grid edit mode. select step edit, select grid, select pad, press play - mash out beat.

i don't need a flying car, or a unicorn, i just want grid edit. i'm seriously considering selling my XL and getting a 2500 just for the grid. grid was promised in 2001!

-da baron

even a very very simple grid edit changes the way you program drums. it's not the same as grid editing on the PC--just like step editing wouldn't be the same on a PC. it's wonderful. you can keep all your drums on one track since you don't have to worry about cluttering your step edit.

soopa wrote:since it's said that the 2000 probably can't run timestretch, i'd still like to see folder support

I don't think it is impossible for the 2k to run timestretch.....
I think it was said that the 2k has the same processor as the xl and the 3000....
so i would think the 2k could run time stretch as well as the xl...which is not well I'm told... but anyway

folder support would be nice as well though...

folders would definitely be coooooooooo

I think it is a great idea! Folders is def a good one.

what programming language use the mpc?

Calculated guess: C or C++, but I'm sure Rohan can give more info on that one.

my donut be 5-10 euro...depends... ^^
let me ask this way when do i get it have you said?

pt3r wrote:Calculated guess: C or C++, but I'm sure Rohan can give more info on that one.

Could ...... but that would be telling

Rohan.

I just picked up a 2000. its sweet!!! I think chop shop would be cool tho.

destruktiv wrote:what programming language use the mpc?

The chip in the MPC supports various instructions for manipulating the internal data handling facilities it provides and it's interaction with external devices such as RAM, DA/AD convertors and physical input output devices. These instructions are ultimately expressed as 1s and 0s or what's often called "machine code". Chip manufacturers provide documentation for developers that express these instructions and the parameters they take in a more human friendly mnemonic form. This is called "assembler language". I believe some modern chips support higher-level languages of some description directly, but by and large higher-level languages or rather the compilers and development environments that realise them, are a level of software that exists beyond the hardware itself and are ultimately compiled to "assembler" which is in turn simply a short hand for lots of 1s and 0s.

So the chip in MPC uses the instruction set of it's processor. The development tools that Akai developed to build the MPC operating system were no doubt written in C or C++ and I suspect lived on some kind of PC. But this software ultimately spat out machine code for the chip.

And here is the crux of the difficultly with developing third party OSes. Without the comfort and convenience of the manufacturers development environment you are entirely alone.

And.

Where chips are in common usage such as something like a Zilog Z80 or an Intel 486, there are common third-party development tools that could be used. Although they're still not specifically tailored to any peculiarities of the overall machine a chip is placed in. With proprietary chips, Roland/Boss have lots of these, the only tools that exist are regarded as valuable intellectual assets of the company and are jealousy guarded. In these instances you'd have to completely reverse engineer the devices in question.

I would be interested to know what the setup is with both the modified MPC3000 OS and what tools JJ has to hand.

Jim

muscle wrote:I just picked up a 2000. its sweet!!! I think chop shop would be cool tho.

SoundForge, Adobe Audition 2.0

Dude, My brain just melted out my ears......

jellyjim wrote:I would be interested to know what the setup is with both the modified MPC3000 OS and what tools JJ has to hand.
Jim

Well for the MPC3000 you won't be asking JJ. You'd be asking me, the re-developer.

Note: I won't be answering these questions either for many reasons.

As for JJ and the MPC1000/MPC2500 OS upgrades.

I doubt he is in a position to tell you ...... or for reasons similar to mine, wouldn't be likely to tell you.

Rohan.