Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By DarkWing Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:43 pm
Hi.
I was thinking about painting my mpc myself...
But I don't want to paint over the text on the mpc. How does forat go about that? Does he use some sort of template?
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By DarkWing Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:07 pm
do you know if there's any way to get this or make one yourself - I have absolutely no idea how to do this.
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By thamessage Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:05 pm
I would like to paint my MPC too, but don't want to spend $700 plus ship for Forat. Are u sure it's a sticker that Forat uses? I think the best way to paint it would be to have an automotive shop do it then have the text screenprinted on.

The painting is easy. The text is the trickier part. One would need the template for the text and a way to get it on there. Is there a template out there?

By studioscience Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:25 am
It's not a sticker.
Honestly I don't know Forats method but I'll say he is a master at it.
I just know that in most cases it's dry transfer or silk screened during manufacturing (the latter for something like an MPC or mass produced goods).

I was gonna start a topic on this a few months ago as I've been customizing synths & stuff for a while myself.

Maybe theres some graphic design or auto/detail dudes here & they can add to this...
Theres more than one way to put the text/markings etc on your MPC or whatever your'e customizing.

1st You will need a template (or several).
But it doesn't have to be the whole face of the MPC.
You can do sections at a time, you'll just have to re-orient it on the face later when you transfer it to the body.

If you're crafty with Adobe illustrator/Photshop or Visio, then it should be no problem to make a custom template & you can really go off & customize your MPC however you like.
use different fonts, change the names, etc...
Heres a hint for 60/3000 guys: scan the cover your manual, theres a pretty good picture of the MPC, then manipulate it in Photoshop/Illustrator.
The rear panel is the hardest!
We ended up taking close up photos & lining them up in Photoshop.

Painting:
Sorry kids Krylon from HomeDepot is not the way to go.

Find a local auto body, detail or custom shop (or even a metal shop).
Most any independant shop should be willing to do this.
Have them clean/strip the housing/body parts, this is usually done by sandblasting.
It will leave your housing bare metal.
If you like that look, then all they have to do from there is buff it out a little to bring the shine out & then "clear coat" it.
Otherwise, heres where they start painting.
Just have them paint with any color you'd paint a car with.
If you want to get fancy & make the 'grey squares' around the pads & Number keypads areas, then they should be able to do that, otherwise find a custom shop that will do it. Not hard, its just a square or precisely aligned masking tape.
Usually places that do pinstripes, etc... can do all this.
Seen Pimp my ride or American Chopper?
ok, you get the hint...
So now you have the body painted.
Don't clear coat it yet...

You gotta put the text / markings back on..
Like I said there is more than one way to do this.
If you are lucky, a custom shop might be able to do it for you, but this *is* a pain in the ass.
how did we do it?

Right here:

http://www.pulsar.gs/DecalPRO/Vertical/ ... rview.html

A $60 laminator from Office Depot & old laser printe from ebay & your in business.

Theres another company "DataMark" that makes pre-made dry transfers but only in white or black.

Get an idea here:

http://www.oselectronics.com/ose_p52.htm

Actually, if you hit up your local hobby or electronics shop, you might be able to find this or other brands of DIY dry transfer.
They're often used by folks who build there own audio/hi-fi gear.
Theres also a few places that will make the template & dry transfers for you, as well you could have a giant sticker made if you wanted.
So once you get your design done, you create your Dry transfer labels.
This is a royal pain to get right, but with practice its really cool.

ok so after you apply your lettering / graphics dry transfers, etc.
now you let it set, then go back to the paint/body shop.
Have them give it a couple hard coats of ClearCoat.

If all went well, nothing smudged or peeled off in the process & you will have a custom mpc.

So your not happy & you want custom arm rests, or side pieces?
Google up some places that do injection molding.

Also hit up TAP plastics if they're in your area.
They made me some sweet side pieces in glossy black color.
Theres all kinds of ways to go about customizing, but if you are a crafty DIY'er do some google'ing & some footwork and you'll come up with your own way.
Not trying to knock Forat, but it's not rocket science.

Google will set you free. The info is out there.

originally I was going to offer this to the public as a service, but it's pretty time consuming & I'd probably charge the same or more than forat, therefore I've shared with you guys how we do it instead.
With the hopes others develop & share there way.

Good luck kids.


PS:
oh yeah, bigger thicker MPC pads...
I found place that will make them.
Problem is, it aint cheap as you must order in quantity.
To do that & recoup investment would be tough.

By mpc3000le Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:49 am
studioscience wrote:It's not a sticker.
Honestly I don't know Forats method but I'll say he is a master at it.
I just know that in most cases it's dry transfer or silk screened during manufacturing (the latter for something like an MPC or mass produced goods)..


Where silk screening goes:

http://www.ezscreenprint.com/ is good for certain non mass produced transfer stuff.

You can make stencils for streetwise graf art also via this above and other methods. ( search www.google.com on spray stencil art templates for more info )

Some insight for letter and picture transfers is here:

http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/details/details.htm

( hint from a local company: "inverse" to make a spray template that can then be scrubbed off once the paint has dried --- lettra-set style rub-on stuff doesn't like water in many cases and will wash off leaving only the painted fill or over spray behind )

As for the paint.

An auto shop that deals with SPIES HECKER ( http://www.spieshecker.com/portal/ ) paint products will be capable producing some hard-core scratch resist finnishes. ( Standard paint on hi end Porches/BMW's/Merc's and such ). ( note, there are other body paints out there too ... go for an oven bake paint for a real speccy look )

Just my $0.02.

Cheers to "STUDIOSCIENCE" JG for his insight also.

Rohan.

By Sound Thief Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:50 pm
studioscience wrote:It's not a sticker.
bigger thicker MPC pads...
I found place that will make them.
Problem is, it aint cheap as you must order in quantity.
To do that & recoup investment would be tough.


i have cash to be lavish with at the moment, is there a website or contact? better yet, do you know the dimensions i could take to a place myself if the place youre reffering to is in the USA?

ill probably sell some to across seas depending on the quantity.red will be the colour
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By EMFinite Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:48 pm
starting the customization of mine today.. and will probably have it fully completed in about two weeks..

depending on my new pads, new screen and buttons order..

By Sound Thief Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:22 am
post up a pic when ur done

By peezie Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:09 pm
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