question about sampling .... please help

hello everyone im new to the forum and to this scene so please work with my question. Just wanted to know what you sample out of. Can you sample from a turntable? and If you can how would you? What else can sample from. Basically I need to know how to sample melodies and tweak them. I also need drum samples but I think you can get sample disks online and load it up to your mpc2kxl and you will have drum sounds, am i correct? and do I need a a mixer with the turntable or like a pre amp if i sample from a table?
please help thank you

you gotta use the search feature man.

You can sample any audio you want! If it makes a sound you can sample it. Think of a sampler as a tape recorder, but instead of recording your sounds linear, you can put those recorded sounds where ever you want! As long as it sounds dope!

As far as pre-amp or DJ mixer.....whatever floats your boat on that one! They both basically do the same thing, but you generally got more options for stuff on a DJ Mixer. If you stumble on a turntable with a amp built in, you should be able to hook it up directly to the MPC.

If your completely new to sampling go to www.download.com and get a free trial version or whatever of fruityloops. Wit that program you should get a good idea of samples and sequencing, and it won't cost you a dime!

That's the basic breakdown of your question, Duke!

damn lou, my turntable goes straight to my mp, would i benefit from doing it different

Maybe D! With a tight DJ mixer you can EQ your samples better, if you want to add some nice scratching it's a heck of a lot easier to do it with a crossfader with an adjustable slope. With a mixer and 2 decks you could sample yourself doing sum back and forth on the 1 and 2's even. It's kinda like whatever's clever with this shit!

When you think of all the crazy shit top notch turntablists do.....it might open up some doors for some experimental type shit with a more production minded individual!

I would get a table and a mixer. Put the MPC on one channel the deck on another. DJ mixers have EQs that you can fine tune the sample with before you sample. Also if you want to add a CD player or whatever you got a way to use it.
As for sampling, u can use vinyl, cds, cassete, vhs, dvd, go buy a mic and get sounds, mini disc, 8-track, tv, radio, telephone, list goes on.

Oh and D
Does your table have digi outs? Cause if not you probally need a pre-amp. I would just get a dj mixer for it. Your signal is not getting up to line level and will sound like as$ if you dont amplify it. Phono's all need that. Certain table like my Stanton Str8-80 have digital outs, but I use a dj mixer anyway. I like to sample from the turntable eqing it on the mixer first. My mixer only has a high (treble), low (bass) eq. No mid. It still cleans up the sample after I scracth it over a drum pattern.

The Stanton STR8-100 has a switch to make your outs line level (what a preamp does) this is separate and apart from the digital outs.

Pretty F'n cool in my book, less noise and no ground wire!

I love those cats!

No way. My boy has those and I should borrow em. I like they way they feel

my turntable is wack. its not a dj turntable, its part of an old shelf unit from when i was young! i keep it ghetto in my lab. I just plug into the headphone jack of the stereo and sample! I know i probably do it much different than all of you! i also have a roland vs890 mixer, not a dj mixer though. can you tell the difference in my technique bye listening to my beats??? let me know!


peace

No, you can't tell bro! It doesn't really matter HOW you get your sounds in the MPC just as long as it sounds decent. Even if it doesn't, with other sounds in mix you might not notice.

Most of the samples that are on my soundclick page are from a cache that I built when I was a lot younger. It's mostly of stuff that I recorded on regular analog cassettes. I don't have the originals for these samples many of them are generic and/or overused, but all I'm using them for is to learn with and post to get feedback so I can improve.

Getting back to the point I basically used an old ghettoblaster hooked up to my PC through the headphone jack and recorded those samples and converted them into MP3. I have about seven 45 min. files with just samples not whole songs. I'm sampling off that!

So it's not too far from your technique. I haven't even touched, as far as sampling goes, the vinyl and other audio I found since I was kid. I'm waiting until my skills are better and I can come correct with those, because there's some pretty nice shit there that I don't want to ruin and mess with before the right time!

Before this when I was a kid I used to mess with garage sale turntables and amps and used to hook up everything in weird ways. I used to use a cable that splits one phono jack into two, hook it up into one of the output channels on an amp with a turntable hooked up to it, then hook up that cable to another amp. On the amp with the turntable hooked up I used to scratch using the balance knob as a crossfader. See like that the overall volume stays consistent and your just cutting the sounds in and out with the balance while scratching. Now this is a real ghetto DJ set-up. I figured this out when I was a pre-teen. Actually I could make doper scratches on that then on a DJ mixer but whatever....Right!

Even now I don't have pro DJ turntables. I got the weakest cheapest gemini DJ pack in the world. The only thing good about it is the price, and they are direct drive. Oh and that price I'm surprised they have a pitch adj.

what are channels and stuff? sorry for the newbie questions.. just trying to get familar with this stuff and what is 8 outs on your mpc? thank you for helping me out you all

Channels...That's the output for either your left or your right speaker. If you look on the back of say a tape deck. It will say "line out" or just "out" it will have a jack for both left and right if it's stereo equipment.

The 8 outs for an an MPC will allow you to output sounds individually so you can process the sounds with a multitracker.

A multi tracker will allow you to process those individual sounds or "tracks" as a mix. See all of those tracks stay separate allowing you to do different things with them. Maybe different FX's, equalization, panning (where the sound sits in between left and right), etc.

Does any of this make sense?

yeah i got it. im stupid i know about the channels just kinda of confused on the 8 outs thing but i got it... i think. so lets say my set up is turntable-connected to dj mixer-connected to mpc- i have a sample,i sample to the mixer, so how would u get like individuals sounds so u can eq it and such, thats waht im confused about is that where the 8 outs comes in? like will it seperate each sound automatically? like theres a sample, and it will seperate the guitar, the bass, the snare, and the kick does it do that automatically or if i doesnt how would you seperate them? like what do u have to do exactly?,also lets say theres a certain snare sound i like, How do i pick the snare sound individually and eq it like tweak and stuff. Or if there is this sick ass guitar sample but theres drums and u just want the guitar how would you filter out the drums and stuff so u can tweak up the guitar sample, and how would uchop it up and put the chopped up parts in different order?

While I appreciate the concept that there are newbies in everything, and that we were all newbies at one point...

these are REALLY stupid questions.

Please stop now, before you unleash another wack producer upon the world.

-TicToc