Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By Renich Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:15 am
Anybody tried using AK Sys on Linux? I mean, using Wine?

If anybody knows about something to access the MPC4000 from a Linux box, please tell me!

I would apreciate any info on the subject

Thanks

Renich

By renegadebliss Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:22 pm
Hi,
When I had a Linux box, I never tried hooking it up to the 4000, so I don't know if it will work or not. Probably the first thing that you are going to run into is that there aren't any drivers for the 4000 on Linux... so I'm not sure that it will even be seen on the Linux box. All my Nix boxes are running OpenBSD/OpenSolaris/Solaris so I can't really try it myself.

Maybe VMWare running Windows might do it?


If anything, I believe that Ak.Sys uses Sysex to talk with the 4000, so you might be able to get something working wtih just the Midi In/Out of the 4000, and using Sysex, but you'd probably need to either write your own app, or get a Synth patcher and plug-in the 4000's sysex....


Dave

By lbratzi Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:59 pm
If you use a live cd, like Knoppix, it might mount the MPC at boot if it recognizes it. You might be able to access it that way. I just might write a Linux OS for the MPC, but since the OS is not open source, not luck for me.

By renegadebliss Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:07 pm
lbratzi wrote:If you use a live cd, like Knoppix, it might mount the MPC at boot if it recognizes it. You might be able to access it that way. I just might write a Linux OS for the MPC, but since the OS is not open source, not luck for me.


If you have the abilities to write an OS for the MPC... scratch Akai's completely and start from scratch :)


If you made an Alternate OS for the 4000 that just used the 96 Pads (6 pad banks) to trigger Real Time Timestretching samples, I'd probably buy another 4000 just for that...


:)

By Renich Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:11 pm
Thanks renegadebliss and lbratzi

Hey, this is an old topic. Lately, my reason of existence is to develop an Open Source OS for the MPC 4000. I even set up a website for it!

In any case, get the service manual and see if you can start something with it, Ibratzi. I know that the kernel currently is amming big time towards RT. They say 2.6.23 is gonna be RT enabled.

Well, I'm gonna try some stuff and see if I can access the hard drive of the MPC-4000 using my linux box.

I will post follow ups here.

If there was an Open Source OS for the MPC, it would get a lot of attention!

By lbratzi Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:11 pm
Well it seems that the Service Manual covers the hardware part of it. But the thing that I would need is an API to interface with the hardwares drivers. I don't think Akai makes that info public. As far as I know I would need to get the kernel they use, the drivers, some sort of API. It would be easy if I had a copy of their OS, that would be a piece of cake.

By Renich Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:18 pm
You have it... on bin... heheh

Well, if you check out this thread: http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=54825

Some suggest the use of the linux kernel. The drivers would be have to be written from scratch and stuff. You could make your own API here...

Am I talking nonsense here?

By renegadebliss Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:08 pm
Going back to the original topic of Ak.Sys on Linux ....

I just ran across this:

http://walco.n--tree.net/projects/aksy/

Instead of running the Windows version, you should try this
instead :)

I don't know how far in development it is, but looking at the Timeline page, it looks like it's getting updates every few days....


Dave

By Renich Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:34 am
WHOA!! Great!!

This is super cool! I'm gonna try it right away! Thanks a lot!

Renich

By Altopiano Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:58 am
hy renich
just wanted to give props for you r effort on the open mpc ... unfortunately i m no technician nor programmer but i wish you the best and hope that you guys will be able to set somethin up .... if at some point you d need a beta tester or somethin i could contribute just hit me up ...
also - if you r tryin that aksy on linux i d greatly appreciate if u d come back with some feedback ... my partner runs linux but then we never have access to aksys ... so if there is one workin under linux it would be great - well maybe we ll try it in one of our next sessions too - but unfortunately i need to test such ish with my partner since i dunno anythin bout linux ... yet!

By Renich Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:32 am
Well, thanks a lot for the cheers! I will give you some feedback as soon as I get my new PC running. It will be sometime this week... I hope!

Thank you for the beta testing offering! We will need beta testers and some feedback!

I am glad! Thanks for your approval!
User avatar

By feline1 Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:01 pm
well that is VERY interesting, as it says it works on Windows too!

By Renich Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:22 pm
maaaaajor mistake!

It's Python we need, not a C compiler! Hehehe. Well, let me check this out and I will get back to you when I get it running on Windows.