Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.

By KO'LES Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:57 pm
Check the sampler, it ain't the hardest boom-bap, but notice the difference in the drums on it, and say, um "grindin" Grindin was hip-hop but it wasn't that ole' boom-bap.

IMO that tight azz kick, doubled up, minus the bass, that's the making of boom-bap.

IMO this guy is on the right path to boom-bap:
http://www.myspace.com/explicitwisdom
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By Cazillac Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:26 am
y'all ears is tore up for some youngsters... let's put it this way if you wasn't even born (or better yet if u wasn't at least 10 years of age) when "sucka mc's" came out in 1983... then we have no conversation. period.
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By StonesThrow Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:21 am
jaem wrote:
StonesThrow wrote:
jaem wrote:
StonesThrow wrote:
Cazillac wrote:"for something more recent listen to "Grindin" by The Clipse.
I dunno what you are talking about Grindin is not boom bap. The neptunes dont do much of that at all. If any.


are u high?

the neptunes are the begining middle and end of boom bap period

no one does it better
I know you're being sarcastic so imma disregard that.


a regular einstein u are :roll:
At least thats what ive been told by your girl.
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By StonesThrow Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:23 am
Cazillac wrote:y'all ears is tore up for some youngsters... let's put it this way if you wasn't even born (or better yet if u wasn't at least 10 years of age) when "sucka mc's" came out in 1983... then we have no conversation. period.
what are you talking about. Since when do you have to have been alive when it happened to have an opinion about something in the past.

By roxstar Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:11 am
I've got to agree with Cazillac. Most young cats have no idea. I don't wanna change the topic, but when a dudes first glimpse of Hip-Hop is Tupac and Biggie then there's something really wrong. It's hard to explain to younger cats what real hip-hop was if you weren't actually living it. To have beef with a dude, go home and practice a dance move and actually schedule a time and place to battle is completely un-comprehendable if you weren't alive to actually be involved. You can't watch a movie to feel this way because EVERYONE felt the same exact way. When I watch wildstyle or Style-Wars I get the feeling of, "Damn, I remember those days, I really miss that!." Anyone younger than 25 will watch that same movie and think, "That's some cool schyt!" The feeling is nowhere near the same. That's why just listening and having an opinion can't come close to actually experiencing. Being too young to buy tapes and recording shows off the radio was ill! Dancing in the streets to buy batteries and bus fare was ill! Stealing batteries and cans of paint because you didn't make enough change dancing was ill! Buying fat laces, Nike/Puma/sergio-tacchini track suites and creating your own style was ill!
Boom-Bap made us wanna spin on our heads. Boom bap makes you younger kats nod your heads. Big difference.

By KO'LES Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:38 am
Cazillac wrote:y'all ears is tore up for some youngsters... let's put it this way if you wasn't even born (or better yet if u wasn't at least 10 years of age) when "sucka mc's" came out in 1983... then we have no conversation. period.


Hold up, 1984 T La Rock: It's yours, he actually sang, "b-boom, boom-bap..." in the song
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By mindcontrol Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:22 am
Cazillac wrote:y'all ears is tore up for some youngsters... let's put it this way if you wasn't even born (or better yet if u wasn't at least 10 years of age) when "sucka mc's" came out in 1983... then we have no conversation. period.


Oh cazillac, im so sorry that my mother and father decided to have me in 1988.

Im deeply sorry...

By Lo Ki Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:55 am
Wow

just

Wow

I thought the youth was ignorant but damn...

By 93 Kid Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:16 pm
There are some exceptions to this age rule. I know some younger cats who were put on game by older heads. Its really all about what you were exposed to. I will agree that most younger heads will never know what it was like to turn on mainstream radio and hear Scenario by A Tribe Called Quest
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By StonesThrow Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:45 pm
93 Kid wrote:There are some exceptions to this age rule. I know some younger cats who were put on game by older heads. Its really all about what you were exposed to. I will agree that most younger heads will never know what it was like to turn on mainstream radio and hear Scenario by A Tribe Called Quest
No i wont but i think its ridiculous to say that this means that i cant have an opinion about the song, or the music.
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By Cheech Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:21 pm
Cazillac wrote: thats like me tryin to tell a music minded 40 something person that funk ain't based on the 1.


actually a lot of funk music is not based on the 1, even tho most american funk is. fela kuti comes to mind for example, and afrobeat in general.

i don't if i'm entitled to an opinion on this hiphop thing, since i'm a 24year old white european kid, but to me boom bap is the overall feeling that you get from the track, the dirty drums, the samples.. but mostly about the drums carrying the song forward. it's got to have that head-nod factor, something that i would blast in the car and it would make me hit the accelerator without even noticing it.



i think this beat is more boom bap than the ones previously posted.. even tho it's a ruff draft so the sound quality is bad, the mixdown is bad, samples are barely noticeable etc etc you get the idea.. check it out
http://www.myspace.com/eltonpoika
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By StonesThrow Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:27 pm
Cheech wrote:
actually a lot of funk music is not based on the 1, even tho most american funk is. fela kuti comes to mind for example, and afrobeat in general.

i don't if i'm entitled to an opinion on this hiphop thing, since i'm a 24year old white european kid


You can have an opinion on it. Dont listen to this guy. Hes extremely condescending
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By Cheech Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:40 pm
yeah i was more or less being sarcastic.
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By Antonym Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:24 pm
i've said it before but in different words

there are few things i think are more pathetic than aging purists who sit on general store porches shaking their fists at youngsters just because they play "kick the can" by different rules

and it always seems like the youngsters they scold are the wrong ones - the harmless ones, instead of the hordes of "lil's" be them jons, waynes, and that entire school