For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.
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By kalmplex Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:25 pm
Alright, I'm currently using my pc (Sonar) to record with. It's just that using a pc you have all kinds of "hang-ups." Also the learning cruve on a pc is higher that using a actual piece of hardware. I've been thinking about getting a recording station such as the Roland VS1880 or something. The only problem, I ust Sound Forge to edit and trim my samples. Can you do that with those multi-track recorders? I would just hate to sell my pc and regret it. Thanks ahead of time.
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By young_keyz Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:25 pm
like it or not but computers are just the future and not gona go no where. im a hardware guy and someoff my gear has limits and by using software it erases those limits. You just got to get use to them. I never really learn much from looking at the program in front of me or reading(nuendo) but i find one i i have a beat all track in and i start playing with things it starts to all work out and i like it. Give it time.
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By kalmplex Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:37 pm
Thanks for the quick response man. I appreciate it.
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By Smoove03 Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:03 pm
i use a tascam 488 to record. its analog. i wouldnt recommend anyone sell their computer. they do help a lot.
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By sensewondah Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:14 pm
pc w/ cool edit pro.
works well.
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By DSTRUCT Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:24 am
i use a roland vs890, i know its smaller than what you loolin at, but i can say roland makes good product. as far as using it with a computer, Im not sure (no pc in my lab), but the engineer/owner at the studio I record at (still learning my roland) uses a 24 track roland, i think hooked up to his computer.
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By MattMatiks PG Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:22 am
Most people today will tell you that you can't get by without some software, but really that isn't true... It's all a matter of preference... You gotta see what suits you...

I personally chose to go the whole hardware/software route... I feel that hardware and software can be used together for the best results... I use an Event EZBus with the EZ8 PCI Card... And I record everything into Adobe Audition...


I mean I seen cats that could rock some f*ckin analog tape and produce hits like you ain't never heard... And I also know dudes that got all the f*ckin software in the world and can't do a sh*ttin thing... And vice versa... It's all how you use your equipment that couns in the long run.
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By Smoove03 Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:54 am
MattMatiks PG wrote:...I mean I seen cats that could rock some f*ckin analog tape and produce hits like you ain't never heard...



fasho!!!!!! :twisted:

By Chris102 Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:12 am
hey kalmplex (nice name by the way).
i'm not familiar w/ the 1880 (btw, how much are you looking to spend on the unit? how many tracks?)
but, i use a VS.2400, it's a 24 track (which maybe more than you need?) but i can tell you it is a superior product.
the Roland VS units are more or less specialized computers for recording music, so i can't submit to the software argument. the VS s use software and specialized hardware, which happens to integrate most of the neccessary tools for recording music. it eliminates issues like latency, soundcard problems, and most importantly $$$. i dropped $2300 on the 2400, but i didn't need a PC, mixer, FX unit, etc. i know it's only 24 tracks and software can have up to a ish load of tracks, but that depends on your PC and is more than 24 tracks really neccessary.
the Roland VS series are excellent products and i'd recommend them to anybody.
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By DOVESKI Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:04 am
jsut a tidbit of info for those in the market for a DAW...

for some reason, my DPS and my partners VS sound better out the box than my digi001.

i got to layer tracks and keep rebouncing files in PT to make em sound good (could be the actual convertors on the digi001). bleh, but its easier to lay down vocals and is good for flying discs to other people with PT rigs (80% of the people round these parts).

what i eventually want is some sort of reel to reel to go with my huge tascam desk.

By Toecutter Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:15 am
yo dove, cats sell the fostex and tascam reel to reels for less than 500 on ebay, check them sometime when your paper's right.
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By speek Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:28 am
I just started usin adobe audition along with my VS-1680 and alls I can say is that its a sick combo...for example one thing I like about audition is the ability to apply effects to small sections like say 1 word of a lyric quick and easy whereas with the vs alone you gotta do ten steps to do the same thing...my 2 cents
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By digital_bastard Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:58 am
I record straight to Cubase SL through a 8 in/out soundcard, no outboard at all.

I think the entire debate about hardware/software is flawed, just because there is no right way. If you've got a system that just let's you work and it sounds fine, use it.

With that said, I wouldn't mind having a monster SSL desk, massive amounts of outboard and a mixed tape / protools setup.. :)
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By DOVESKI Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:06 am
Thats what im aiming for, since my desk runs 20+4 aux channels i should be able to do it, i want to record through the first 16 channels to the aux channels into 4 ins on the Digi, then finish the song and run 4 outs of the digi back into the remaining 4 channels and bounce the finished the mix on the reel. (if im thinking this wrong feel free to step in).

I think my tascam 320b is the shit, just with the strip eq (6 band) i can really mutate sounds, straight turn a tom into a bass drum, know what i mean, its some real shit i think everyone should experience. its the closest thing ill ever have to an SSL, n im sure it whoops a mackie 24 which goes for $400 more used, got VU meters and everything.
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By DOVESKI Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:12 am
Toecutter wrote:yo dove, cats sell the fostex and tascam reel to reels for less than 500 on ebay, check them sometime when your paper's right.


yeha, thats what im fitting to do, i was thinking bout a otari though. if i get that ima try to rent my studio out to other cats eventually.