Changing sustain of sample without re-recording?

Is there a way to alter the length that a note-off sample plays without going back and re-recording the track?

put the same sample on other pad and copy params.

it's just how i'm doing it.

Duration in STEP editing screen, but it takes time...so I don't know if that's the sollution you're after, if you are about to deal with multiple samples.

Thanks for the replies.

olavi3000, don't think that'll work for what I want to do?

harlej, after a couple years on the MPC I'm just learning how to step-edit. So I'll try and figure out what you mean and try it.

You know when you record a track and then go into program parameters and change the sound from poly or mono to note off, the sample doesn't playback because you only tapped the pad when recording and didn't hold it down?
What I did is record a track with a sound/pad that was set to mono in the pgm params. I spent time getting it perfect and now realise I should've had the pad set to note-off to begin with. I've tried just changing it to note-off and re-recording the track but can't get it right and I don't remember the settings for that track. So is there a way to change the midi data recorded in that track, to alter the duration of the sample?

Harlej, I'ma try that asap.

no i don't think he means the delay....

you just need to change the duration, the duration just equals the number of ticks that you hold the pad down. the best way to do this is step edit


step edit is real easy and really effective once you figure it out.
first go to step edit. then to move around in step edit you need to use the buttons that are above the REC and PLAY etc buttons. there are five buttons there. the buttons on the left side will move you one tick at a time, the buttons on the right side move you one bar at a time. however if you keep the center button pressed down and press either one of the arrows that are on the left side of that button it will move you to the next or to the previous recorded note in the track you are on. if you keep the center button pressed down and press either one of the arrows on the right this will move you to the start or to the end of the sequence


just keep the center button pressed down and you can move through all the recorded notes quickly and easily with the arrows, back and forth.
once you find the note you need to change, just alter the duration to what you want. you can play the sound there so you can get it just as you want to.

hope this makes sense.
just take your time with it... it took me a while to even try the step edit, i was kind of scared of it because i had no idea what it does lol. but as i said you should be able to use it. it's really great for fine tuning

use the edit soft key to alter the duration of all the samples, a particular pad or key range.

are we ?

because there is a Dcy setting in step edit but it only changes the amount of the decay, not the amount of actual ticks.


when you have a note in step edit there are four variables there.

it looks something like this:

>N:48/A09 Tun:0 D:75 V:127

the first one is obviously the note. the second one can be used to change any of the following parameters: Tun (for changing the pitch), Dcy (for changing the decay), Atk (for changing the attack) and Flt (for changing the filter). The third one ,D, stands for duration and this is what i meant. The fourth one is of course the volume.


>N:48/A09 Tun:0 D:75 V:127
assuming that the sound is set to note off, in this case this sound would play for the duration of 75 ticks.

>N:48/A09 Dcy:26 D:75 V:127
now the sound also play for 75 ticks, but now the decay would just kick in according to the Dcy setting

step edit is real easy and really effective once you figure it out.
first go to step edit. then to move around in step edit you need to use the buttons that are above the REC and PLAY etc buttons. there are five buttons there. the buttons on the left side will move you one tick at a time, the buttons on the right side move you one bar at a time. however if you keep the center button pressed down and press either one of the arrows that are on the left side of that button it will move you to the next or to the previous recorded note in the track you are on. if you keep the center button pressed down and press either one of the arrows on the right this will move you to the start or to the end of the sequence

Cheech, thanks for that info, it's really usefull

By the way, I'll just add one important thing to the above quote.
In the step edit screen, to move by one tick left or right with the buttons on the left side of [LOCATE/GO TO], you have to turn off the timing function.
As far as I remember, to do that, you have to press and hold F1 and then turn the wheel all the way to the left.

Thanks again!

oh yeah that's right i forgot about that, i never use the timing function so i didn't remember it.

no prob lamp

Thanks for the info! Especially Cheech and harlej for the step-edit rundown. Just wanna get home now so I can mess with it.

Initially I did what nanoloop said and it worked. One thing that I didn't get was that I could increase the value of the duration to get the sample playing out IN FULL, but then noticed I could keep on increasing the value to the point where it seemed to never end. Not sure what that's about?

Step edit looks like just another way of doing this. There doesn't seem to be any real advantage of doing it in step edit rather than in the edit (soft key) window. Or am I missing something?
The only difference I can think of without being in front of the MPC is that in the edit window you can select the particular note you want to change, or you can change ALL notes recorded in that track. ...Not sure if you can do that in step edit? Anyway... I need to be home gettin' busy.

Thanks ya'll
Peace

or you can change ALL notes recorded in that track. ...Not sure if you can do that in step edit?
You can do that w/ the edit softkey, not the step edit.