interesting FILTER TECHNIQUES?

what's up everybody. since filters really have taken off with the jj os's QLINK to TRACK option, i have been using them a lot - but i've started to feel like i'm overdoing the low sweep as a "tint."

in particular, i never use the high or low2. i use the band sometimes. however, i'd like to hear what other people are doing - there haven't been any good tip posts in a long time, and i miss them.

I really never use the high-pass or the band-pass filter.
The Low 2 is a 24db resonant low-pass filter, giving you far more resonance than the Low 1, 12db low-pass.
I tend to use Low 2 alot more when I'm applying filters to anything... and I gotta do some experimenting with Q-LINK to TRACK now that you mention it.

i use frequently all the kinds of filter but not teh band pass (only for lfoing in specifics range...)
it's usefull for equing (you can use a filtre for low and one for high etc...
it's usefull for sound design and creating new sounds.

i posted a tip in the tips and tricks thread but nobody replied to it.
i post it again:
the low pass 2 is different from lp1 because is emphasis (resonance) can have auto oscillation.it's interesting because auto oscillation produce sine wave and u can use the mpc as a sine wave synthesiser triggered by your sample...
only put the res to 100 and automate the frequency with q link...
it's quite dirty (because of the dither) but i like it...

I couldn't live without HPF, I use it all the time to clean up the muddy bottom end out of noisy samples. Then you don't have to worry about doing in with EQ in the DAW and you get more headroom when tracking. It makes it easy to place things in their proper frequency range while you're still choosing sounds, rather than deal with a big mess at mixdown. Plus it can be great on cymbals and hats the make them a bit thinner and sit in the track better. The list goes on, I use it all the time. Usually with a dirty sample i've taken off vinyl, if its a melodic sample say, i'd use the HPF around 20 to clean up the bottom end, and the LPF around 90 to take out the hiss, but this varies quite a bit ofcourse depending on the sample.
I basically never use the BPF, excpet maybe more as an 'effect' every now and then.
I always thought that LP2 was a 12db filter just with boosted resonance? I thought you had to use 'link' to get a 24db filter, but I might be wrong. I heardly ever use it except when I want to **** around with some freaky robot sounds and get it self oscillating, like what mkl said. But it can be quite hard to tune the sine wave that it produces to the track/sample.
Yeah i mainly use the 1k filters as bread and butter tools, and do anything else in the daw. But i will have to get into using the q-links more, I always forget how fully featured they are now, i'm stuck in my bad old habits and it takes me 4 times longer than if I just thought to use the qlinks.

if jj had negative lfo variables, then i would be happy. putting a hi pass and a lo pass moving in opposite directions sounds really nice. better, obviously with analog filters, but i don't think jj can go that far. on topic though: i use the bandpass and lp2 more than anything else. the hi pass only really gets used on 2nd-4th layer cymbals, and possibly vox.

while we`re at it... the filters dont work when assign to output 123 or 4 right? I am at work now so cant give detailed info but it seemed that its that way. Its a shame really would really wanna try out to have fx on the mpc and then add more filters and fx thru my 404.

the filters work with all the outputs...

mkl... wrote:
i posted a tip in the tips and tricks thread but nobody replied to it.

I should have replied to that, because I tried it and it was really really cool.

I find the HPF is pretty weak. Fine for getting rid of 'mud'. However, follow it with some distortion/overdrive and a compressor, and it'll sound great.

i use LPF for some samples when i find them too ''loud'' or too much hi or if there are some drums in my sample.. sometimes in combination with bpf.. and then play a new bassline over it..

anyway

since filters really have taken off with the jj os's QLINK to TRACK option

what do you exactly mean with this technique nym?

i like using filters for filtering weird dubby delays:

set a band or hi or lowpass filter on your sample of choice and send it to FX1. Put a delay with high feedback, snyced in track (delay legnths like 0.5, 0.75, 1, 0.25, 0.33 or whatever) and send some of FX1 to FX2, put a reverb on fx2 with a long decay. adjust to reverb to taste and trigger and filter it.

have fun.

mkl that sine wave trick is great, i often use it in breakdowns, in which i use more drum machine sounding samples (retro sht). i apply a Lo2 to it and get weird with the sine wave.

all good posts. i rarely use the filters to do much eqing, besides cutting out some hiss or low end every now and then...it's mainly the automated filter thing i'm trying to get better at. i'll have to start using them more traditionally, the way they're intended...

does anyone automate resonance? that's one thing i'm wanting to get into. i'm building a modular midisense and one of the features is going to be filter mode, where there are 6 pressure sensors. 2 get assigned to each filter, low high and band. 1 goes to the filter value and the other will go to resonance value. this way you can "play" the filter with aftertouch rather than with a slider - think about it - to me it seems a more natural way to do such a thing.

Sometimes I use 2 filters a lowpass and a highpass. setting the lowpass to 100 and the highpass to 0. then i put the resonance up on both the filters

now you can cut the freq at both sides creating a sort of bandpass filter. and the resonance lays an extra dimension in the sounds.

Than i make a rhythems of all parameters mostly paradiddles

Greetings,

I also did something like that

But only in the track I copied the same note exactly one beat after another behind the original one. While the note is reapeated you let the volocity drop and the LPF down. The sound is decaying when also stepwise the higher frequencies are dropping add a little panning and reverb and voila.

Greets,

I hope You understand my explaining
sorry i am dutch

Antonym wrote:this way you can "play" the filter with aftertouch rather than with a slider - think about it - to me it seems a more natural way to do such a thing.

try this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuum_(instrument)