Reviews and questions about the entry-level MPC500
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By Lithion Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:49 pm
I've had the opportunity to work with the 500 for about a week. This is my opinion:

I have had the MPC1000 for about a month. I was using FL studio and other programs to try and make music before this, and once I got the 1000 I never knew music production could be taken to this level in my home. In short, it was awsome. After reading about the 500 I though that it would be perfect for me, because I work night shift and I have about 5 hours of kill time a night. The 1000 was a bit cumbersome for me to take back and forth from work, so I think 'perfect.' I was horribly wrong.

The machine: Its small, light and compact. This is good because I can just stick it in my bookbag, throw a few rechargable batteries in and I'm good to go. The bad news is its like one of those ultra-portable laptops. The button configuration is akward. Everything is so small and close together my fingers are **** everything up, mashing the wrong keys and such. Having a small size somehow idecreases my abilty to access functions, and slows me down. This is frustrating when you have an idea in your head and you have to slow your mind down because the technology is slow. Its kind of like when you are writing in pencil and you are frustrated because the words are in your head and they arent coming out fast enough. The 'main' button has been substituted for the seuence and track buttons, so in essence there is no real 'main' screen to be brought back to. This sucks, and makes creating tracks an akward and difficult process.

The pads feel stiff and unresponsive. I don't know if this is because it is brand new (I bought the 1000 used) or if this is the design, but it makes it really frustrating pushing pads. Half the time I just end up putting on the full level button and then later mastering the volume.

The screen on this thing is so **** tiny. I'm guessing that they couldnt replicate the 1000 screen because this would jeapordize battery length, but it just makes everything suck ass even worse. I can only read half of the words on a folder when loading a kit or program, so I can never tell what the **** I'm loading half the time. And also, for some reason the volume on my headphones sucks ass. I have to keep the volume at max half the time if I want to get the level of sound I need for production. Its not my headphones, because they are like a hundred dollar pair of studio headphones, and its not really the machine, because I plug it into studio monitors and it sounds great, so it must be something about having headphones in without some sort of power source besides the 500.

I admit, I have been spoiled by the 1000. I got greedy and thought I could buy a portable version of this. Another reason I bought it was I thought, 'cool, if I get an idea on the go I can put it down and then work on it in the 1000 later.' To its credit, the 500 is really good for this reason. I use Acid Pro to chop samples and then upload them to the 500, work on them and then later work on them in detail with the 1000.


In short, if you want to blow your time running through countless menus that are not intuitive at all, buy the 500. If you want unresponsive pads, and you want to make yourself think you are hard of hearing, buy this machine. If you want to make music, buy a 1000 or better and don't think you are going to make your next hit while on the go, becasue the 500 will not accomodate you. I will probably use it for the nexy year or so and sell it for around 500-600 bucks to try and salvage some of the money I wasted, and some of my pride.
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By proppa Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:36 am
it seems like Part of the issue with negative experience reviews on the 500 are that people expect it to somehow resemble the feeling of a larger layout model despite this machines compactness.

all the talk of dissapointment with the screen size and button layout is.. well it seems that just by looking at a picture of the unit you'd realize that yes, this is going to be a Different way of working.

hating on the 500 is a bit like hating a small hammer. it's just a tool that's right for certains jobs.
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By Contra Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:32 am
im comin from a 2kxl and this is no "lesser" mpc to me, i get everything done and thne some on the 500.\
and for fx i use the computer, same when i had the 2kxl, only now i have the usb option of the 500 which beats loadin from a usb zip drive my samples from the 2kxl.

my 2 centavos.]]
pz
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By SamOwen Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:31 am
proppa wrote: hating on the 500 is a bit like hating a small hammer. it's just a tool that's right for certains jobs.
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You said it well proppa. Small hammers can still kill !
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By Upright Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:42 am
proppa wrote:
hating on the 500 is a bit like hating a small hammer. it's just a tool that's right for certains jobs.
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By Lithion Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:39 am
proppa wrote:it seems like Part of the issue with negative experience reviews on the 500 are that people expect it to somehow resemble the feeling of a larger layout model despite this machines compactness.

hating on the 500 is a bit like hating a small hammer. it's just a tool that's right for certains jobs.
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I think I am justified in my opinion (just as you are yours). It is perfectly reasonable for a consumer to want more from their product. I think it is absolutely amazing that they can fit the functionality of the 1000 in such a small package, it's just how I feel about it.

The small hammer/big hammer analogy doesnt really work here, because there isn't much the 500 can do that the 1000 cant, other than be portable, but I get your point. I'm not 'hating on' the 500, I just don't like the akward feeling it gives me.
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By Contra Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:41 am
Lithion wrote:The small hammer/big hammer analogy doesnt really work here, because there isn't much the 500 can do that the 1000 cant, other than be portable, but I get your point. I'm not 'hating on' the 500, I just don't like the akward feeling it gives me.


well how about the producers who will own a 500 and produce tracks that demolish many mpc users and mv andd whhutever.

it may not have the full potential of the other mpcs but there is always a way around everything.

pz
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By Upright Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:58 am
I think your main gripe is that the 500 isn't as user friendly as the other Mpc's, right??
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By motormind Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:21 am
Upright wrote:I think your main gripe is that the 500 isn't as user friendly as the other Mpc's, right??


There is some truth to that, since most of the newer MPCs have bigger screen real estate. The 500 works more like an MPC3000 in that regard. But I found it mostly a matter of getting used to, especially if you like entering beats the old-fashioned way, by banging the pads. You do have to memorize more functions though.
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By Contra Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:19 pm
motormind wrote:
Upright wrote:I think your main gripe is that the 500 isn't as user friendly as the other Mpc's, right??


There is some truth to that, since most of the newer MPCs have bigger screen real estate. The 500 works more like an MPC3000 in that regard. But I found it mostly a matter of getting used to, especially if you like entering beats the old-fashioned way, by banging the pads. You do have to memorize more functions though.


word, thas what inspires me more when you get discouraged by "i make beats on a toy mpc, damn" just say, "nah, its just a baby mpc 3000"

i mean even the layout of how the pads are left to the data wheel and buttons, and the q link slider on the 500 and 3000 are left to the pads.

baby 3000
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By Upright Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:18 pm
I said it before and I'll say it again, I love the 500. It's a sick little machine(could use an OS update on the real though) :D
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By solah Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:39 pm
its understood that a customer wants more out of a product..but then they should pay more..

the problem is that customers think if they buy the cheapest for the more bang there music is going to be the same.

it doesnt matter what you have in the studio. its all about the size of your jimmy.

all these punks should stop acting spoiled and spend more money for machines with more function.

you dont need a screen on damn thang..i love my 500 but i always perfer my sp-303 because it has no screen..the screen distracts me..

sometimes i smoke a blunt and blindfold myself trying to loop up a beat. and program it...and i get crazzy PERFECT sounding loops and samples.

i say take the screen out of all the mpc's.....whos down for the revoution...







by the way...the sp-1200 has practicly the same damn screen as the mpc 500...and they still made a music that defied a generation

By Milkybarkid Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:08 pm
I bought a 500 and have been (other than the polyphony and USB backup) extremely happy with it - I spent the day on both a 1000 and 2500 today, and didn't enjoy them that much. The screens are bigger, but I chop samples by ear anyway, and on the 500 the button layout is more systematic and easier to navigate - sure the buttons are closer together, but that means the're closer to hand. The pad sensitivity - well I suppose thats what you are used to, but 99% of the time I use full level on my 500 so it makes very little difference.

By Lion of Judah Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:10 pm
The only real problem I have with the 500 is the polyphony stuff. It's tiresome having to track out various tracks just to be able to hear what it REALLY sounds like.

The screen is no issue at all for me. Took me maybe 2-3 days to learn (more or less) the whole navigation system and saving/loading. Those are no problems at all for me.

People get spoiled when using the bigger MPC's :D.
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By solah Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:15 pm
Lion of Judah wrote:
People get spoiled when using the bigger MPC's :D.


haha, yea bredren, they do.

i love shit by the ear, you got to listen alot harder.

but no matter what if you travel and you dont have an mpc 1000 or a portable drum machine the mpc500 is CRUCIAL!!! Cruicial like roots in your reggae collection.

But if your going to use the 500 in your studio then your going to hate it..

the mpc500 was not ever meant to replace a studio mpc.

it was meant to let us people program ideas on the go without ever stepping into our kingdom.