Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By mrlive2ride07 Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:29 pm
I was reading the manual and the beat making on the 2kxl ebook and didnt see anything on track assigning drums. I always put each drum sound on a different track but dont like to sit there and record kick overdub snare overdub etc. I like to just bang out patterns with that live feel to it so is there a way to just assign each pad to a track and bang out and your preformance is recorded track for track at all at once. If I overlooked something I would appreciate the advice of one of the more experienced members. Thanks in advance!
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By McSmooth Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:44 pm
There are ways to record more than one track at a time, but it only works with seperate external midi devices.

You only record one track at a time with the pads. A lot of people will just record one pad at a time on each track. If you start out with something like the bass and snare, some people like to start with lets say just the snare, then with the other hand tap the side of the MPC in place of the kick pad to keep you in the groove, but not record it. Then switch pads for the next track.

Another method is to just record everything in one track as you want to. Then make copies of that track. Finally go through the copies and hold erase and the pads you want to take out. Basically you are using erase to leave each copied track with a single sample in each track. That way you get the live feel and the ease of mixing/recording later.

Not sure what your overall method is, but a lot of people just rely on the 8-out board for this. They can record everything in one track, but the pads are assigned to seperate outs, so they can record/mix them seperately outboard.
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By Lampdog Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:50 pm
McSmooth wrote:Another method is to just record everything in one track as you want to. Then make copies of that track. Finally go through the copies and hold erase and the pads you want to take out. Basically you are using erase to leave each copied track with a single sample in each track. That way you get the live feel and the ease of mixing/recording later.
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By mrlive2ride07 Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:03 pm
ok ill try the copy and erase method and see how that works until i cop the 8 outs.
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By dopedee Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:10 pm
Originally posted by McSmooth:
Another method is to just record everything in one track as you want to. Then make copies of that track. Finally go through the copies and hold erase and the pads you want to take out. Basically you are using erase to leave each copied track with a single sample in each track. That way you get the live feel and the ease of mixing/recording later.




thats a damn good idea ...
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By Lampdog Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:10 pm
That method has nothing to do with the 8outs just to get a good drumming realtime feelings.

JUST so you can get that feeling, record your kick snare and hh all to the same trk1. Then use that method, seperate them.

Later on, you can assing to 8 outs.
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By mrlive2ride07 Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:23 pm
Ok just to know. What method do you use with the 8 outs?
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By Lampdog Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:27 pm
I don't have 8outs.

On mpc I record kik snr hh to trk1 and separate later on.

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By craaates Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:48 pm
The 8 outs don't have anything to do with how you sequence your tracks. You assign sounds to the 8 outs in the mixer window, if you have the 8 out board installed of course. Stereo sounds are assigned to pairs of outputs as in 1/2, 3/4 ... and mono sounds can be assigned to individual outputs 1, 2, 3, 4. So if all your sounds are stereo you get 4 stereo outputs plus the L/R main outputs, but I like to keep some sounds as mono to give me more output flexibility and you can always use effects and panning to make the mono sounds stereo after the fact.
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By mrlive2ride07 Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:44 pm
So that the copy delete method seems to be the best way to go at this point.
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By McSmooth Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:34 pm
My point with the 8 outs only applies to if you only need the sounds seperate for tracking externally (into your DAW or multitrack recorder), but want to record in a single track. I'd never do this as I perfer to have all instruments in seperate tracks for use track-mutes. But if you are just going to be recording it straight out, that method will work since everything gets assigned to the outs regardless of what tracks they are on.
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By Jacpot Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:40 pm
Or you could just record all to one track and use the MOVE function to move the sounds to different tracks...

People always forget that trick :wink: its so much easier than copying tracks and erasing

Byharlej Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:23 pm
Or you could just record all to one track and use the MOVE function to move the sounds to different tracks...

People always forget that trick Wink its so much easier than copying tracks and erasing


Could you describe it with some details? I'm not quite sure what are you talking about, cause the only thing with move function is the track move, but it takes everything from a track to a different one...Can you choose somewhere what sound to move from a particular track to different one??
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By Lampdog Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:43 pm
Ey harlej, yeah, you'd use the edit button (2kxl), it's on pg 69 in the 2kxl manual, I've used this before, works perfectly if you pay close attention to the the settings and where you are placing things.

try that

Byharlej Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:35 pm
Ok Lamp, I've checked it. You are right, this function is very useful and I keep using it from time to time myself. However it doesn't give the user opportunity to copy chosen (multiple) samples (I mean samples, not the midi notes range) from one track to another. You can only do it one note at a time.
The way that Jacpot mentioned it gave me a thought, that maybe there is a way, to say... for example copy kick, hihat and open hat from track 1 to track 2 with one operation.
It is a good trick and definitely makes it faster to achieve desired effect than by doing it the way mentioned above.