Talk me into keeping the mpc...

Alright, I know it's blasphemy but I'm really thinking about selling my 2000. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna do it soon but maybe someone can come up with a reason why I shouldn't...maybe something I didn't think of. There's a couple of reasons. First, sampling through my sound card straight into the computer at 24 bits just sounds a lot better than sampling to the mpc at 16 bits, then going out of the mpc and then into the soundcards convertors. That's converting three times, versus sampling right into the computer, tweaking in Sound Forge and throwing sounds into soft samplers. Second, when I use the mpc with logic, because I like the logic sequencer, I usually record midi from the mpc. But this means I can't throw vst effects and what not until I actually record the audio tracks, which kind of sucks, whereas with the soft samplers I can throw effects all day long as I build stuff. I don't have outboard reverb so this is important. Third, the soft sampler will save all the sounds with the song, meaning I don't have to make sure I have the proper zip disk/program for each logic song. Fourth, I can make templates for each swing percentage in the mpc in logic. Fifth, I can bang beats out on keyboards pretty good...it's like, I hit the keys pretty hard just like pads. Sixth, if I miss the pads I can always get that midi pad thing.

Don't get me wrong, I've been to war with the mpc and love it, it's just that I'm not using it and it's like that's money that could go to something else. Why should I keep it?

I cant argue with you there. sell it. I'v been through the same situation and if you like tha pads get the midi contoller akai sells for 2 billskies. But make sure you wont miss it.

Sell It if you want to. You can always get another one later.

Jon;
You gotta do what's good for you.
If Logic is what feels right for you, then it's right.

Peace.

jonloc wrote:I cant argue with you there. sell it. I'v been through the same situation and if you like tha pads get the midi contoller akai sells for 2 billskies. But make sure you wont miss it.

that midi controller is not the same as the mpc, Ive used the MPD pads and its totally different. You cant really play live drums with it cause once you hit a pad the sound plays almost a half a second late, its probably just the usb thing that makes it off time but if you want real time drums you arent gonna get it with the MPD16

Reasons to keep the MPC...

16 levels
autochromatic
the Zone function
live drums and timing

do what you will, I wouldnt trade my mpc for anything

Learn to use your 8 outs and route those into their own AUX channels and apply FX real time... all the rest of your problems I don't have with the 4k

As far as "talking" you into keeping your MPC, sell it someone else obviously wants it more than you

P.S. the midi pads suck sadly

I do all my looping of intruments in software also. I use Pro Tools and love it for this, and since I started using it, I haven't sample much of anything at all other than drum hits into the MPC. Like you said converting it so many times does lower the integrty of the sound. I even use the sequencer in PT to sequence my boards. The time streach in software simply kicks the living shit out of the MPC, and the auto chromatic on the MPC is only somewhat effective.
Remember what you bought with the MPC, a sampling drum machine, use it where it excels. I use my MPC interly for drums at this point. I feel I can work the fastest on this machine for drums than anything else by just making 1 or 2 bars, dupeing it, and then and adding fills and rolls in song mode. I LOVE that you can control the dynamics also. It's also alot easier to carry aroud than a computer, and you can always dump your sequences and sounds into the gray beast. Then again you can also burn a data or audio CD. I just think its a lot of fun to play with, I think it looks and feels great. Hey different strokes for differnt folks you know? It's up to you. If you think you work too slow on the MPC and you are just sick of it, get rid of it. I was going to sell mine like 2 yrs ago, but came to my senses.

basically the only reason I can see to keep it would be for its sequencer....if you are happy using the logic sequencer all the power to ya....I acually use the same setup, have used logic for a few years now and have just recently purchased an mpc...I find some things easier to do on the MPC some things not so easy...I find the tightness of the MPC's sequencer to have a nice musical feel that logic lacks sometimes.... its just a matter of your style of programming and how you get down... ...but I also have the MPC 1000 not the 2000 like you. its a bit easier to work with a computer and the mpc 1000 cause file transfering is simplified...but at the same time you get anything the mpc has and more in Logic...personally im finding the two working together are a powerfull combination.. but more and more top notch producers are using strictly Logics ESX24 sampler and not hardware...I figure most tracks made in Logic will sound a whole lot more original than most people could create with just an mpc anyhow...

sell it son fitnuck it go on and flip it.....you'll be okay sounds like you got a good handle on your cpu skillz

How could you do it! Come on man, snap out of it. This is the talk of a crazy man.

Here's a little test, please do this before your final descision,

Turn off your computer
Turn on your MPC and put on your headphones
Make a beat (don't be tempted to turn to your comp)
The reason to keep it should be should become clear pretty quickly.

I use a G4 running ProTools and Logic and I love using them but there's nothing in the world like shuting down the mac and listening to sweet power up sound of the MPC, slipping the headphones on and letting the world just disappear. Just you and the beats, y'all know what I'm talking about.
It the therapy, it's the ritual.

DON'T SELL IT, you'll be sorry

I see it like this..... if u really need someone to talk u into it.... then it seems like you've already made up ur mind..... if u found somethin that u like more than the MPC, then ma manz, more power to you, nobody can talk u into somethin that doesn't fit YOU.... if you like Logic or what not and thats what u make hot shit no, then u don't need nobody to talk u into keepin the MP, u just need someone to buy it.....

I dont talk from experience But the "pads" wouldn't suck If you used them right. Like read the directions in the box for performance word fo word. It aint the pads that lag or the usb cable, it's your whole computer setup period, or they wouldnt sell them, in fact you could plug it right into the mpc and I bet you they would work like a dream.

i have been a long time logic and exs user and it has its advantages, but its not great for beat production.everything kept in the computer means easy file mangement which is good but the thing is logic feels wrong to me for beat sequencing and thats why i got the 3000. you play midi notes into logic from a midi keyboard in cycle record and what u hear back does not represent what u played in. you have to do a lot more work in the long run to get beats sounding right on logic. the quantizing is terrible and the filters on the exs aren't great either. i'd stick with the mpc for beats and use logic as a processin tool for audio. mpc does beats best, logic does audio best. its best playing to the strengths of the equipment.

wut a ridiculous post.

I don't see many people that have used their MPC for a good period of time (the ones who actually bothered to read the manual) and not have MPC withdrawl when they get rid of it