How do you chop up sounds in the 3000/60?

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I own a 2000XL. Of course, you're able chop up sounds in the 2000 via a graphic waveform display to accurately cut where ever you want. However, I hear the 3000/60 do not have this. How do you chop up sounds in these MPCs if they don't have this display? I'm just wondering because I'm thinking of getting a 3000. Thanks for any help.

djkain wrote:Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I own a 2000XL. Of course, you're able chop up sounds in the 2000 via a graphic waveform display to accurately cut where ever you want. However, I hear the 3000/60 do not have this. How do you chop up sounds in these MPCs if they don't have this display? I'm just wondering because I'm thinking of getting a 3000. Thanks for any help.

The MPC60 and MPC3000 have wave form editing in the good old fashioned
numerical way.

SECONDS.MILLISECOND.SAMPLES

That and a "BEST START" amplitude threshold detector.

Download the MPC3000 manual as a PDF from the archives section of www.akaipro.com; http://www.akaipro.com/archives.php

Read chapter 8 of the downloaded MPC3000 manual for more information about it's sample editing capabilites.

Read also the 3.1 addendum section of the downloaded manual to see what additional sample editng functions were added.

Note also that if the MPC3000 is fitted with Mansell-Labs Vailixi 3.50 operating system then it will have additional "chop" functions to speed up and ease the creation of new samples from existing ones.

To get more information on the MPC60 sample editing function you can peruse the user manual available for download at www.rogerlinndesign.com ...

Rohan.

This is how I do it on the 60.

Sample a break. say it's 4bars.
then i copy the break(the 60 processing is a bit slow, so smaller files are quicker)
cut the break in half and truncate. so they are 2 bars in length each.
take those 2bar breaks and copy them.
Truncate, so they are one bar x4.
copy those pieces again
truncate the pieces into half bars. and so on.
if you wish to chop smaller, you can, or just stop
etc..

it's alot quicker than trying to copy and cut individual pieces. and since youre always cutting in half, its easier to keep track.
On the 3k, it was never a problem to copy a whole break, because it doesnt take long to process, and has ample ram. by doing it this way, youre truncating after each step and your sample space is recovered. So you dont run out of space. and as you go into smaller pieces, the 60 doesnt take as long to process

For stabs and other random parts, i dont really follow a specific pattern.

Thanks for the replies.

I also do it like peezie, but I don't usually deal with whole bar loops, I work with snippets. There's also another method in the MPC 60 bible thread at the top.

Or if you got the 3000, cop the Mansell-labs.com OS. It can zone a sample and copy the zone directly to a new SND.

Or you could do your sampling and chopping on the computer and transfer it over to the MP. I also use SoundTrack Pro and MPCPGMMaker on a Mac.

But basically yeah its all numbers.

it was just an exmaple. i usually only take a bar or two. I just sample the whole break and leave unchopped parts for future needs. I tried elmac's blank sound method, but i feel faster this way, less button pushes and scrolling the cursor around.

mp3 wrote:I also do it like peezie, but I don't usually deal with whole bar loops, I work with snippets. There's also another method

Im lusting for some of those features on the 60..

mp3 wrote:Or if you got the 3000, cop the Mansell-labs.com OS. It can zone a sample and copy the zone directly to a new SND.

Yeah I pretty much do it like peezie described. I guess it's the common/easiest way.

I've tried el's way with the blank sound for a while but I think it takes too long scrolling through different sounds and using the zone feature. Sometimes I would get confused half way through lol. I like just copying the sound and trimming.

Is it possible with 60II os 2.12 to load the same sound on a different pad and not have the changes made to it affect the other sample? Like say instead of having to sample the break over and over and chop the hits i want. Can i just sample a portion of a break save it, load it to multiple pads and trunicate each one to a different hit? Or is this only possible with os 3.10?

thedailyhustle wrote:Is it possible with 60II os 2.12 to load the same sound on a different pad and not have the changes made to it affect the other sample? Like say instead of having to sample the break over and over and chop the hits i want. Can i just sample a portion of a break save it, load it to multiple pads and trunicate each one to a different hit? Or is this only possible with os 3.10?

You can't do that period on the 60 or 3000. the start and end values are attached to the sample itself, not the pad. so if you wanna have the same sample and just have different start/end points on different pads, then you gotta make copies of the sample.

You can't do that period on the 60 or 3000. the start and end values are attached to the sample itself, not the pad. so if you wanna have the same sample and just have different start/end points on different pads, then you gotta make copies of the sample.

Yeah 2.12 is crappy but it's cool if you use it for drums cause that's all I use it for right now till I get 3.10.

The one function i truly miss is no poly, mono, note off in 2.12

Is it possible to stop rec. the sample before the time you have it set to?

nope. the lack of that one feature kills my workflow.

i looked at the chopping in one of the manuals... it looks like a longer process, but it also looks like a lot of fun (to me)

so basicly on the 3k and the 60, u make copis of the sample, then trim out the sound u dont want on each one of them???

isnt there zone edit like the 2k has???

when u load one sample and cut out parts of it, name it, save, assign it???