Determining origional tempo of sample

How do you guys do it? Do you tap tempo, or work around it when working samples together? Im having trouble sometimes getting samples to fit within the bars due to not knowing the temp of the sample. I dont know which forum this would belong in....so I went here because I use the JJ OS.

get the sample looping correctly in trim mode, then assign it to a pad, record a note on the 1, then adjust the sequence tempo till the desired loop fits perfectly.

Thats the way I was doing it more or less. Figured maybe there was a more "pro" way. Maybe ill just pick up recycle or something since it appears that the auto chop fuction doesnt look for peaks in the wave and just divides the sample by a certain factor.

yeah there is the other way which you mentioned: tap tempo. just tap along in time to the beat.

man just chop a sample up and play it... adjust the tempo till it sounds good!

i never understood these "how do you find tempo of song?" threads.. cause like.. its just a feeling man.. its either on, or its not.. just mess with it till it sounds good!

i'll pick a BPM.. say.. 92.. take a 2 bar loop, chop it up into quarter notes or eigth notes or whatever... then i'll mess with the pitch of the sample till it fits the bpm, or ill just mess with the bpm till i like the groove. you can also sometimes get a cool swing if your bpm is a little faster than what the original sample is ( and i know this not from #s, but from the feeling of it)

i swear, sometimes people get too caught up in numbers and %'s and rates and frequencies and shit.. make somethin that feels good, sounds good, and makes people smile (or cry or whatever, depending on your goal )

/end rant

sorry - there was no disrespect or hate intended in this post, just venting a little.

I more or less stated that I was doing it by working with the sample adjusting and using the tap tempo...I was just wondering if there was a more refined approach. Thanks anyways. I understand where you are coming from. Hey, at least I didnt say one of those gay ass questions like.....How do you get that (insert famous producers name) sound questions hahaha.

In Recycle you load the sample/loop ... then you say the number of bars it's supposed to last and it tells you the bpm... it deppends of the amount of bars you input the result you'll get.... a 4 bar can give you 180bpm, but the same into 2 bar it's 90bpm....

before you assign it to a program of sliced samples, hit (I think it's f-3) for convert to patchphrase- you don't have to create one, but when you bring up that screen it gives you the bpm for the sample. Then go back assign sliced samples to pads and adjust tempo to what you found out in the pp screen

tap tempo is the best way to find the bpm of samples . you just hit the tap tempo button on beat of how you would have your drums in there. (if its not a drum sample that is) its not always gunna be right on but it will give you an idea ...

i would too recommend chopping it up anyway. Even if you chop it up and play it back in that same loop form you got your shit soundin doper forsure. Might even flip it on some other sht... just in my opinion.. good luck

dee

esk - i too never have any idea about the original sample's tempo.

1. Trigger sample, then TAP TEMPO in time to the sample.
2. Record sample into sequence and let it play. (Make sure you set the right amount of bars)
3. Adjust tempo till it loops perfectly.
4. Now you have the tempo of the sample.

Antonym wrote:esk - i too never have any idea about the original sample's tempo.

yeah, i dont see what the point is. i also dont see the dilema.. i mean if you got an ear for it.. its pretty simple to make a sample groove. its not about numbers

es-k wrote:

Antonym wrote:esk - i too never have any idea about the original sample's tempo.

yeah, i dont see what the point is. i also dont see the dilema.. i mean if you got an ear for it.. its pretty simple to make a sample groove. its not about numbers

Yea i gotta agree, when i was fukcin with software it was all about the numbers for a the begining stages, but once u get that groove its over.

thats why my tempos come out to somethin like 91.7 or somethin