Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By punchdrunk Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:14 pm
i've postd this before and i've seen other people ask for it too...

IT WOULD BE ILL if you could set different start and end points for each pad!!
since q-links can control start and end points already it would just be
a matter of setting up the pads to input those values.

NON DESTRUCTIVE CHOPPING ON THE 1000 WOULD BE CRAZY!!!
the possibilities and freedom with this would be unbelieveable,
not to mention the memory and disk space you would save...
imagine having ONE WAV of a break and and having all the pads play different
parts of the break that you could readdjust as you wanted, filters, fx, etc...
ALL OFF THAT SAME ONE WAV file.

this would be so dope to have!
anyone else interested in this???
reply or request this....PLEASE!
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By dopedee Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:27 pm
why dont you just make copies of that same wav file?



:idea: :?: :!:

By Dahkter Tue May 01, 2007 12:23 am
I think this would be pretty cool, however you'd need to use a small sample or you'd run out of memory pretty fast...

By SELFISH1 Tue May 01, 2007 12:44 am
JUST LIKE AN ASR X.......THATS THE SHIT. Trust me, thats the best chopping you can get cuz you use your EARS. THis is a great suggestion......MY 1 THING I ALWAYS WISHED FOR MPCS TO DO WAS CHOP LIKE THE ASR X. Do you think this would require alot of code? BTW, you dont run out of mem that quick(i never did with the x), but then again i dont know how large of samples yall cats is taking.
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By punchdrunk Tue May 01, 2007 1:07 am
dopedee wrote:why dont you just make copies of that same wav file?


because i don't want to make 32 copies of a wav when i can just use one.

i chop small and sometimes its nice to have the option to edit the endings freely, make them longer etc without having to recopy or rechop. instead this way you would just edit the end point value. just another way to flip stuff.

you can already do it with the q-links, but you could be more intricate with it if
you could set up the pads with the start/end points. its basically chopping that you could always undo, change and edit with no problems.
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By punchdrunk Tue May 01, 2007 1:15 am
SELFISH1 wrote:JUST LIKE AN ASR X.......THATS THE ****. Trust me, thats the best chopping you can get cuz you use your EARS. THis is a great suggestion......MY 1 THING I ALWAYS WISHED FOR MPCS TO DO WAS CHOP LIKE THE ASR X. Do you think this would require alot of code? BTW, you dont run out of mem that quick(i never did with the x), but then again i dont know how large of samples yall cats is taking.


YES, EXACTLY!!!
chopping this way is so much more friendly and creative to me,
cause you can always readjust the start and end points endlessly and have chops overlap, etc.....
you can already do this with th q-links so i think it would just be a matter of making it editable through the program screen for each pad. but the main part of it already exists, so this seems very possible!

DAHKTER wrote: I think this would be pretty cool, however you'd need to use a small sample or you'd run out of memory pretty fast...


nah man...you are just using ONE WAV but having the pads play different parts of that ONE WAV....this would require less memory not more!!
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By Sanova Tue May 01, 2007 1:32 am
Sounds like a good idea

but why do that when i can just load up that one wav a few times and assign it to a different pad and set the start/end

better yet, why not just chop it. . . slicing leaves the original wav intact and creates the new slices (same size as the original wav, just ins seperate pieces)

By bruxism Tue May 01, 2007 1:46 am
would also love this, would be a great addition.

Because i play the MPC exclusively live, no sequencing whatsoever, I like to save memory where i can so i can have my entire set loaded into the MPC, and no loading mid gig.

This kind of thing would really make creative chopping a whole lot cooler and save memory.

Very good thinking.

If we all give it a precise name, and all ask JJ for it by that name, mayb if there are enough of us requesting it, he'll see the demand and put it in somehow.

What shall we call it?
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By Lampdog Tue May 01, 2007 2:39 am
The ASR series is excellent at making param copies of the same sample and such. I have ALWAYS liked that feature. Meant the WORLD to me at times.. NO extra memory used at all.
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By Antonym Tue May 01, 2007 3:20 am
the only way to do this is going to be by taking up the QLINK data of each note triggered

ie

to use a "asr style" chopped sample, you would have to enter something like "16 levels" just tailored to that start/end qlink value instead.

just so you know - that's the only way it'd happen. this will prevent you frmo using other NOTE ON qlink values.

By bruxism Tue May 01, 2007 3:24 am
how are you sure that that's the only way it would happen?
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By thedvs01 Tue May 01, 2007 3:30 am
that's a cool idea, I wonder if it's possible


Seems like a lot of people responding with "just copy the sample" missed the key points, which were "non-destructive" and "save memory"
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By melton Tue May 01, 2007 3:52 am
punchdrunk wrote:i've postd this before and i've seen other people ask for it too...

IT WOULD BE ILL if you could set different start and end points for each pad!!
since q-links can control start and end points already it would just be
a matter of setting up the pads to input those values.

NON DESTRUCTIVE CHOPPING ON THE 1000 WOULD BE CRAZY!!!
the possibilities and freedom with this would be unbelieveable,
not to mention the memory and disk space you would save...
imagine having ONE WAV of a break and and having all the pads play different
parts of the break that you could readdjust as you wanted, filters, fx, etc...
ALL OFF THAT SAME ONE WAV file.

this would be so dope to have!
anyone else interested in this???
reply or request this....PLEASE!


CoSizzle!

Like you say, doesn't seem like it should be a big deal (code wise), since it's already a qLink... Having program level start offset per pad or even start point in sample time (which would probably be more complicated to code) would be extremely practical and useful.

PLEASE OH MIGHTY JJ.
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By Antonym Tue May 01, 2007 4:11 am
bruxism wrote:how are you sure that that's the only way it would happen?


1 - because that's the way that we can currently change start and end points
2 - because the only other way would be to copy the file over X number of times
3 - any other way would have to create an entirely new way of changing start/end points, and space for new code is limited
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By djsun1 Tue May 01, 2007 5:45 am
Ditto on this request.