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By scott123abc Wed May 09, 2007 2:06 pm
what are good artists to sample frm to find good hip hop sounding drums

safe, scott
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By mindcontrol Wed May 09, 2007 5:14 pm
episode wrote:you can turn practically any drum into a "hip hop" drum if you eq it correctly.

By Abraheezee Wed May 09, 2007 6:16 pm
EQing is definitely everything. In addition, you can also mess with the pickup and dropoff points on drum on the MPC. For example, you can make it a slight bit shorter by having a more abrupt drop off at the end of the drum, or you can make it resonate, or you can make it into a drumroll.

The possibilities are endless, kid... :D
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By thebeatbreaks Wed May 09, 2007 10:12 pm
check out classic soul and funk records...that's where hip-hop is rooted from and are the most commonly sampled.

check out rock records.


yeah eq is everything. you can find drums anywhere and on any record and make 'em hip-hop.
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By Upright Tue May 29, 2007 12:41 pm
episode wrote:you can turn practically any drum into a "hip hop" drum if you eq it correctly.


Compression, don't forget about compression. It can really fatten up your drums.
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By c0mplex Tue May 29, 2007 6:19 pm
Upright wrote:
episode wrote:you can turn practically any drum into a "hip hop" drum if you eq it correctly.


Compression, don't forget about compression. It can really fatten up your drums.


And filtering / layering.. if u filter a kick so u just got bottom end, then layer that underneath ur original kick and roll off the bottom end of the original kick with eq, u'll have a nice airy kick with fat bottom end.. u just gotta mix the 2 right.

A good thing with snares is to get 2 snares... and roll off the bottom end of one with eq so u got the real snappy top end, and layer that over a diff snare for the fullness of the mids / bottom, then u'll have a real strong snare.. etc etc
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By Upright Tue May 29, 2007 6:25 pm
c0mplex wrote:
Upright wrote:
episode wrote:you can turn practically any drum into a "hip hop" drum if you eq it correctly.


Compression, don't forget about compression. It can really fatten up your drums.


And filtering / layering.. if u filter a kick so u just got bottom end, then layer that underneath ur original kick and roll off the bottom end of the original kick with eq, u'll have a nice airy kick with fat bottom end.. u just gotta mix the 2 right.

A good thing with snares is to get 2 snares... and roll off the bottom end of one with eq so u got the real snappy top end, and layer that over a diff snare for the fullness of the mids / bottom, then u'll have a real strong snare.. etc etc



Excellent stuff c0mplex!!1
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By jnorth Wed May 30, 2007 3:58 pm
I'd learn about the classic breaks first if you don't know about them. Check out the Ultimate Breaks and Beats comps, James Brown, Skull Snaps (if I'm right the re-issue is widely available), Elvin Jones, etc, etc.

There are drums everywhere. You just got to listen out for them. There are breaks everywhere. Even on Rolling Stones and Beatles records (but you need big balls to sample these)

Look at the sleeves too. Check who's the drummer on the record. Many drummers have released solo records that have loads of drum solos.


people are forgetting about SAMPLE SELECTION. Theres no use of adding EQ, compression and all that shit when the drum sample is wack from the start. Yeah all that stuff helps and improves but can't clean a turd.
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By ReckOne Wed May 30, 2007 3:59 pm
jnorth wrote:..., Skull Snaps (if I'm right the re-issue is widely available), ...


You're right...
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By c0mplex Wed May 30, 2007 4:09 pm
jnorth wrote:
people are forgetting about SAMPLE SELECTION. Theres no use of adding EQ, compression and all that **** when the drum sample is wack from the start. Yeah all that stuff helps and improves but can't clean a turd.


Man, i chop all my drums from dope and classic breaks.. as well as unknown dope as f**k breaks... but they still need work to really fattern them up and get them bangin like real hiphop drums...

I never used to think that and thought of it the same as u, untill i learnt and it clicked with me, especially as progression isnt as such just doing knew things and them making the difference but actually hearin the difference and it being aparent.. more or less like a form of enlightenment, and not matter how many times u are told or u read it or whatever, u will never truely know untill u realize and u know.

Even premier joints made with classic breaks, the drums are still layered filtered eq'd etc etc, its just done in a way so the layers work real coheisive and sound like 1 drum at the end.

Also u say u cant make wack drums good... i beg to differ coz u totally can, can fix them up and make them sound dope beyond belief actually.. u just gotta know ur sh!t. I used to think the same as u for long time untill I learnt my sh!t... but now i can tell u what u said totally doesnt apply.. and untill u realize urself and learn then u will hold urself back (I know i did exactly the same way).
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By MegaTON Wed May 30, 2007 5:54 pm
Lord Toranaga wrote:some drums that may seem whack by themselves,


will sit good in a dense musical mix.

this is somethin i realized while sampling any and every open drum on any record i have
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