Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
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By c0mplex Wed May 09, 2007 2:44 am
funny how u class zelda.. mario.. paper boy etc as 'rare' games on ebay...

How can they be rare? they some of the top selling games, meaning theres more copys of them out there then most other games lol
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By c0mplex Wed May 09, 2007 12:18 pm
Yeah i hear u on the marketability thing.. but then thats fooling peeps who dont know any better into thinking the sh!ts rare..

For example Its like claiming beatles records are rare and sellin them for alot, when beatles sold billions and billions and they still sellin sh!t to this date (some thing isnt rare when everyone knows about it and theres BILLIONS of copys and they some of the top selling artists ever), which infact makes them the total opposite of rare because there was more beatles records purchased and floating about then a HUGE amount of other records.

As for the games being nes and n64... they are still not rare, there are billions of paper boy, mario... zelda games etc... they where some of the biggest selling games ever... and mario even came with EVERY nes console lol.. so how u can claim it to be rare is beyond me.

Old does not equal rare, and anyone payin over the odds for these games are being played
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By MC Denzel Washington Wed May 09, 2007 1:28 pm
c0mplex wrote:Yeah i hear u on the marketability thing.. but then thats fooling peeps who dont know any better into thinking the sh!ts rare..

For example Its like claiming beatles records are rare and sellin them for alot, when beatles sold billions and billions and they still sellin sh!t to this date (some thing isnt rare when everyone knows about it and theres BILLIONS of copys and they some of the top selling artists ever), which infact makes them the total opposite of rare because there was more beatles records purchased and floating about then a HUGE amount of other records.

As for the games being nes and n64... they are still not rare, there are billions of paper boy, mario... zelda games etc... they where some of the biggest selling games ever... and mario even came with EVERY nes console lol.. so how u can claim it to be rare is beyond me.

Old does not equal rare, and anyone payin over the odds for these games are being played


damn dude who cares?

By funkdoctor Wed May 09, 2007 2:39 pm
They are rare the same way that a US dollar or US coin or stamp or any similar item becomes rare- they are no longer in circulation. Most people throw theirs away, they stop working etc. If it would take a lot of searching to find a certain item, then it would be rare.

But if this man isn't taking money out of your pockets, then why do you care ?
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By c0mplex Wed May 09, 2007 4:19 pm
Well.. just because things are not manufactured anymore doesnt mean they are rare, I know plenty of people who still have nes and n64 tucked away (and mega drives, master systems, mega cd, etc etc etc) and they have boxes full of games, 100's.. we still regularly session n64.. think a nes session is in order actually... 2 player spy vs spy or some sh!t lol..

Funk doctor,.. money becomes rare when discontinued because its called back in and changed for the new notes / coins etc.. peeps computer games aint called back in and replaced when a new console format is released..

And yeah i dont exactly "care" just its a shame that peeps feel the need to market like that, especially ex common consumer goods, its its antique hand crafted furnature and sh!t then fair enough but factory made molded plastic kids toys? not just that but ones that aint even 20 years old?

The whole "care" thing is a bit silly to bring up, because peeps could bring that up for every thred on every forum.. and if thats how it was nobody would get any answers to theyre threds because nobody would "care" to answer them.. we would have no debates or discussions, which would then end the point of having forums in the first place
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By FLUENT Wed May 09, 2007 10:02 pm
the market demand drives the price, you can't fool a coin collector into thinking something is rare when its not, its the same thing with games. things like availability, condition, original box+manual, tested to work 100%..are all contributing factors to making the item more in demand. the market for games is high since its getting increasingly harder to find NES games (even mario bros.) in mint condition and fully working, let alone in their original boxes etc. in 10 more years these games will be even higher in demand, and its the people buying them now who will be selling them then. economics 101
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By HARRY HUSTLE Wed May 09, 2007 11:42 pm
Yea I dont really see the concern in how the guy presents his products if it may bring in a few more viewers/bidders then who cares thats the whole point isnt it....??

I mean its really not false representation which is the only way I can see some one caring...If YOU dont think its "rare" then keep it movin obviously the auction may not be for you...BUT the guy that comes across it and bids/wins it because HE "thinks" its rare...to him it just may be...I mean they say rare/antique items only sell based on what some one will pay right? its an auction...you may bid a dollar but the next guy is willing to lay 10....

It doesnt hurt your pocket and it just may help him so why the hate?? I should of just backed out this damn thread but had to post....aint takin sides or anything just tellin it how it iz....
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By c0mplex Thu May 10, 2007 12:22 am
Very good point about the box conditions and all that sh!t, thats def somin to take into concideration.. and yeah course i understand theres a market for this sh!t, and peeps will pay whatever they want its all personal preference, i know some peeps who revolve around consoles, then i also know peeps who hate them with a passion.

At the end of the day my personal opinion is the sh!t aint rare, it might be rare to get them in good condition, good condition boxes etc etc... but the games themselfs aint rare, even if they hard to come by for some peeps (they def aint for me).. there is millions and millions (billions across the world) of these games, so the games themselfs in my opinion are not rare, maybe good condition ones might be, but then who are we to judge and honestly know that at the end of the day.

U might not see many on the market these days, probably coz alot of peeps who kept hold of theyres dont wanna sell them, and those who have bought them since maybe in more recent years bought them coz they like them and again dont wanna sell them, but just coz they rare on the market really doesnt mean they are rare at all.

Wild animals... some animals are REAL hard to spot and see, the way they live and dont come out much or the times / locations they do making them real hard to find, doesnt make them rare, might make them a 'rare sight' but not a rare animal..

A rare animal is an animal there isnt much left of, an animal becomin extinct etc..

Im not fussed at end of the day, what u charge what u sell whatever, I prob know some peeps myself who'd pay alot for those games, I also know peeps who have huge boxes FULL of not only 1000's and 1000's of games but every console u can think of even down to that old tennis game sh!t with the ball (or square lol) bouncin between 2 lines, and the controller being that 1 dial u rotate left and right..

I just thought id point out 1 thing about rare, and my views / opinions on if i think the games are rare or not, this is a forum for discussion / debate and sharin opinions with each other.. seeing what each other think of a certain thing.. regardless to if its a lil off topic most things do anyway, but at least this is off topic with some kind of debate instead of the usual childish nonsense name callin and silly sh!t some things can break out into.

I hear u on the good condition games and good boxes etc, now that probably is rare, especially since most these games was at some point handled by 6 year old kids and sh!t.

U know it wouldnt even be hard to get some cardboard printed up the same and actually make perfect copys of the original game boxes, maybe u wanna try that to up ur sales lol

Peace
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By HARRY HUSTLE Thu May 10, 2007 11:03 am
lmao complex I was with you all the way until your last sentence and it seemed like you just had to drop a lil smart ass remark....but I found it funny lol because everyone wants to chime in on thier opinion...and mark up a point on their side....I think its funny how far south this thread has headed but debates can be fun so lets dabble...

problem is you mentioned making copys and sh!t which now would be false representation/fraud if your trying to pass it off as a rare original....

this guy isnt doing any of the sort, all ebayers use sh!t to bring in as many viewers/bidders as possible ever seen as few of these....??

**WOW**

**NICE**

** LIKE NEW IN BOX ** etc etc....

well whos to say whats really like new?? and just cause the seller is WOW'd by his item does that mean every bidder/viewer will be?? NO! BUT if it may help with the 1 goofball that ends up being the highest bidder and he feels its a WOW or agrees that it is LIKE NEW IN BOX then isnt that really all that matters???

u make it seem like there is a set guideline to things that are "rare" like they can NOT be rare unless they reach a certain requirement...which is not the case....AT ALL!!

rare or antique items are normally purchased by collectors, you cant lie to a true collector He knows what he wants, he knows if its rare to him, and he normally knows what he wants to spend regardless of what you tell him.....lets use an example..."a baseball card" you have a "rare" card that is worth 1000 dollars and they "normally" sell for half of the book value so say 500....well if i take it to a card shop I'd be lucky to see 2-3 hundred because to him it wasnt THAT rare but then again I may get 6-7 hundred from my neighbor...y? Well because he hasnt seen half as many cards as the guy from the card shop and to him it is much more rare and a hard to come by card....hence him paying/bidding more then the card shop guy...

bottom line is if I want to say I have a ***RARE*** roll of toilet paper that is 100 dollars starting bid MOST people would laugh and keep it movin...but the guy that actually bids or wins it must of really though he had a RARE roll of toilet paper....

and regardless of all facts he just purchased a 100 dollar roll of toilet paper.....so can you really call the seller an ass??













of course not....It's all about the person that is actually coming out of pocket for the product to say wether its rare enough or NOT....

carry on....
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By ReckOne Thu May 10, 2007 11:53 am
FLUENT wrote:...its getting increasingly harder to find NES games (even mario bros.) in mint condition and fully working, let alone in their original boxes etc. in 10 more years these games will be even higher in demand, and its the people buying them now who will be selling them then. economics 101


Damn...Gotta check my parents attic than...I still have a large amount of those in great shape and all in the original boxes...
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By ReckOne Thu May 10, 2007 11:53 am
double post...sorry
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By ReckOne Thu May 10, 2007 11:54 am
tripple post...sorry