mpc2000xl vs mpc1000 ( im going mad trying to decide)

hey guys, i've been looking around about a million forums reading about this issue and its just made my choice harder really.

i'm looking to buy one of them second hand of ebay, and i totally can't make up my mind on what to get.

the mpc 2000xl seems cool because of; time-stretching ability, "better pads", easy to change note value across 16 pads(apparently on mpc100, if you get a bass sample say and want to change pitch, you have to do it manually on each pad)- but the major downside would be for me that it would be really difficult faffing about with zip drives n stuff when im running a apple g5.

mpc 1000 seems cool, cos of computer integration, small(i play in a pretty full on electro punk band, so i'd be using it live alot). it also comes with 4 outs as standard

i say get the 2000xl for the pads and MCD compatibility alone. The pads on the 1000 are horrible. But if u can hold out for alil while longer and save for the 2500 that'd be your best move. Id also recommend a used MV8000.

thanks for teh advice man, i was thinking of getting a flash reader for the mpc2000xl to make compatability issues less important.

has anyone got any experience of using the 2kxl live? or know how reliable it would be in this situation, thanks in advance

the mpc 2000xl seems cool because of; time-stretching ability, "better pads", easy to change note value across 16 pads(apparently on mpc100, if you get a bass sample say and want to change pitch, you have to do it manually on each pad)- but the major downside would be for me that it would be really difficult faffing about with zip drives n stuff when im running a apple g5.

you're going on old information. currently, the 1000 can do all that and much more, as well as being much faster and hold about 4 times the sampling time.

I´m kinda having this same problem.. I have had my 1k for two years now and I love it!! Its just so badly built that it drives me crazy, mainly the pads and data wheel. I love to work with it but I think maybe buying 2kxl too, because its hiphop , no I just like the pads much better and I know this dude whos selling he´s mp for 500€ which I think is pretty good price. What do you think?
I´m gonna repair my 1k tho... It just seems that I can´t get 1k´s data wheel from Europe, gotta order one from vst..

But back to the topic I´m wondering if I can come along with 2k, because 1k has so much more options and It´s lot faster to work with.. I could keep both of them, but that makes no sense.. I´d rather buy maybe ASR and MPC...

Well this was odd message

is your data wheel skipping values on you? ie as you scroll, it goes in the direction you're scrolling but sometimes flips back one? that's a real pain.

if you want to do a little research, you could always search for a rotary encoder that has the same specs are the one you're replacing. odds are there aren't any out there that are more durably built but you never know.

i've heard of this problem happening to 4 or 5 people who use their machine steadily over a couple years. nick at vst told me that folks are constantly sending in their 2000s and xls for the same reason (and spending a LOT more than they need to just to get a new piece soldered in, but some folks is timid)

im an idoit and i cant solder too well
so im not going no where near my 1000 with a soldering iron
put it in the box until i can fix the pads or get a mpd16/24 to try and better the situation....


so i'd say, 2000xl, which for me i got second hand, was dusty and dirty as heck when i bought it, and hasn't failed me once.... features, i never feel cripiled by the features....

as far as faster, for what? timestreching?, which is about the only thing that the 1000 does faster, most people i know dont use timestrech, most people use the pitch to fit technique which, for me, works a lot better and sounds a lot better.... dont know man i dont like that staggered sound.....

but


thats just moi....

sorry i dont mean to nit pick

I've had an MPC1000 for almost 3 years now and it's an outstanding machine. Get the new JJ OS and it adds a bunch of the sequencing/editing functions that the 2000 has. Now my 1K has a 20 gb laptop harddrive - realtime pitch & filter control, and digital delay. You can set it to have 6 outputs total and with the two footswitch inputs you can set tempos and start sequences with your feet.

My only major gripe with the 1K is that samples don't sustain as on regular sound modules - once you hit the sustain pedal on a keyboard midi controller they stay sustained forever. And 3 of my pads are dying after two 1/2 years of constant use. And just recently my data wheel started bugging out. These are the only serious limitations that i've found with the 1K.

I got my 1K for $800 off ebay, and I'm a lot more comfortable gigging with the smaller & less expensive 1K than I would be with a 2K. And now that I've got realtime control and the editing/sequencing/pitch-shifting/etc. of the 2000 I'll never give up my 1K.