Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
ByHaSTe Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:54 am
I've installed my 8-outs recently -

The 8 outs seemed to work fine and i was very proud of myself, however i've noticed now that when I try to sample anything using analog ins, something is royally fcked up - it just sounds like digital mush, there is just noise coming out of my speakers as soon as you go to the sample screen. Anything I sample is just digital sounding mush, even it samples okay, i then go to trim it and its the sound is distorted in the trim screen.

Can ANYBODY help me, or know a solution? I hope i havent fried the sampler, when i installed the 8 outs, i rested the MPC on a towel, could that conduct static electricity?? Has this sort of thing happened to anyone else?

Please somebody! i cant produce without the sample function..

I haven't tried unplugging the 8 outs yet, but I was hoping someone had an easier solution such as installing the latest OS or something.
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By pieuvre Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:09 pm
sounds strange . try to put out the board ( or just unplug it to see what's wrong ) and try again sampling > make sure the ferrite stuff ( a metal square on the connector ribbon) doesn't have contact with the body , they say so in the manual , maybe that's the reason why .
good luck man

By Toecutter Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:33 pm
what about stuff you sampled before you put the board in, like your older stuff, does that have noise on it now too?
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yo

By binger0 Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:57 pm
try turning in sample mode the ish to analog then monitor off (its up in the top right). That might help.
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By pieuvre Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:26 pm
AAAAAHHHRGGGH the infamous " Monitor L/R " !!!!!! :D :D
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By Decepticon3107 Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:45 am
The same shit happened to my 2000xl. Its been in the shop for goin on two weeks now. The dude is chargin 50/hr labor, so i'm scared to find out how much this shit is gonna cost me.

Byspeakfrly Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:24 pm
Have any of you guys tried turning down the volume of the channel(s) that your MPC main outs are on BEFORE you hit that sample button?

You may be just getting feedback. I had that problem when I first got into sampling.

Just turn down the volume (not the source you are sampling from) and that should eliminate the horrid sound that you are getting.
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By binger0 Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:46 pm
Have any of you guys tried turning down the volume of the channel(s) that your MPC main outs are on BEFORE you hit that sample button?

You may be just getting feedback. I had that problem when I first got into sampling.

Just turn down the volume (not the source you are sampling from) and that should eliminate the horrid sound that you are getting.


equals

try turning monitor off (its up in the top right). That might help.
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By TicToc Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:47 pm
hate to be redundant, but these cats may be right.

If your MPC is playing back what it sampled, and sampling what its playing back---you have a feedback loop.

The MPC outs are going into the MPC ins....and then back out through the outs....and then back into the ins. etc.

either turn down the MPC out-volume when youre ready to sample, or you will get feedback, assuming your MPC outs are getting routed back into the MPC (example: main outs from mixer to MPC Record Ins and MPC outs to mixer)---that would cause a loop.

I had the same problem and this fixed it right away.

-TicToc
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By Decepticon3107 Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:13 am
I don't know about Haste, but I know that wasn't my MPC's problem. My shit definitely had something wrong with it - the sound would jump back and forth between the Left and Right channels at a fast rate when sampling in stereo, resulting in an annoying clicking sound. It was okay sampling in mono, though. It would even do it sampling in digital...


I talked to the guy at the repair shop and he thinks its bad SIMMs. I dont think it is though, because the problem happens before I even hit record. If it was a memory issue, I think the problem would only be audible after I recorded the sound onto the SIMM memory and played it back... right?

ByHaSTe Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:12 pm
:cry:

No I've checked the monitoring L/R and I know its not a feedback problem, i have been using my MPC for 2 years now so i think i'd
recognise that.

When I sample something it is just a harsh digital noise, and the odd thing is even if I DO get a good signal and sample that, it can still turn into digital noise between the time I save it, and the time I go to TRIM to listen to it.

I'd say i have to try unplugging the 8 outs board. If that doesnt change anything I think i need to ask the professionals.

Thanks for your everyones help and suggestions.
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By binger0 Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:34 pm
yeah man that sucks. Post a follow up
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By jazzbee Sun May 21, 2006 7:14 pm
Exactly the same shit is happening to my 2000 Classic:

I'll be removing the 8 output board first then changing the RAM.

Since it's happening to quite a few of us hopefully we'll get this issue resolved soon especially with so many potheads.. I mean sound engineers on the case :P


Peace
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By nogginj Sun May 21, 2006 11:40 pm
is the static maybe somehow related to the digi in? i mean maybe someone might plug a non analog signal into it or something....it sounds really like vice versa.

is there some monitoring of the digital ins goin on? i dont have the 8 output board (anybody want to sell one?) but maybe it has something to do with the digital input. i dont know so many of you say digital noise, it just makes me think it might be somehting like that.

-j

By kraster Mon May 22, 2006 6:11 am
HaSTe wrote::cry:

No I've checked the monitoring L/R and I know its not a feedback problem, i have been using my MPC for 2 years now so i think i'd
recognise that.

When I sample something it is just a harsh digital noise, and the odd thing is even if I DO get a good signal and sample that, it can still turn into digital noise between the time I save it, and the time I go to TRIM to listen to it.

I'd say i have to try unplugging the 8 outs board. If that doesnt change anything I think i need to ask the professionals.

Thanks for your everyones help and suggestions.


This actually does sound like bad memory chips. I used to get all kinds of weird stuff on the MPC until I changed the memory chips. And from what you're saying here it seems that the MPC is corrupting the DATA afer you sample. The only place data is retained after you sample is in the Memory. Ram Chips are notoriously unstable. One tiny bit of static and you can kiss them goodbye. Maybe something happened to them when you installed the 8 outs.They're only a couple of bucks so it's worth checking out some new ones. And yes a towel can conduct static.