Life after 90BPM? feedback/input mad appreciated....

aight main i'ma make this short and simple cuz when i go into crazy detail yall never response, but i see dudes wit the quick 1 liner questions getting krazy feedback..


i know its not a right or wrong way to make music.. but me EVERY SINGLE sample i get, no matter waht it is.. i put the tempo at 90 BPM and i build off of that.. whether its a 1 bar sample or a 4 bar sample or whatnot..

thing is as my ear drum develop i'm gettin to samples that dont' Loop at 90BPM..

case in point, my last joint, it loops beautiful at 99.8.. thing is i'm findin it next to impossible to make drums for it... cuz my usual kick, kick, snare, kick, snare patter is not flyin wit this... i tried all TC settings, shoot i even tried turning it off..


but yeah i know its possible to make hip hop beats outside of 90BPM but as my rookie mind go..i can't really see it.. and i aint' talkin down south beats neither....

but MAN was them teachers right when they sed math is life and its everywhere.. but math is a mutha... i don't get it.. i can get it to loop at 90bpm...but on the computer it says... my loop is actually at 140BPM and its 8 bars.. its like what?
drop some knowledge on me and please help steer me in the right direction...

i hope to goodness its not related to the whole time stretch, pitch shift and all that.. cuz well thats another post..


i appreciate any and all help

stay up fella'z..

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Do you use a DAW? If so, you can simplify things by time stretching/compressing that loop you were talking about. I use mostly SF-8.0 (sound forge) for stuff like this. You see, in this game there are all kinds of tools to use. Like a mechanic, technician or carpenter, they rely on tools to get the job done right. This also applies to engineering. Find out what the pros use and stock yourself up with indentical software. It'll help you out so that you can maybe pass some knowledge and help the next man. It works for me.

why dont u set the bpm to w/e it is you want and then start building the beat?

You can either Time stretch or chop up the loop, then it'll fit into the 90 bpm range.
Chop it into parts then flip it to fit you beat.

enotide wrote:You can either Time stretch or chop up the loop, then it'll fit into the 90 bpm range.
Chop it into parts then flip it to fit you beat.

This would have been my answer to.

bizzzla wrote:but i see dudes wit the quick 1 liner questions getting krazy feedback..

Some people I guess don't wanna read too much or they are intimidated by big questions and word problems maybe (math again, lol)

Lampdog wrote:

enotide wrote:You can either Time stretch or chop up the loop, then it'll fit into the 90 bpm range.
Chop it into parts then flip it to fit you beat.

This would have been my answer to.

bizzzla wrote:but i see dudes wit the quick 1 liner questions getting krazy feedback..

Some people I guess don't wanna read too much or they are intimidated by big questions and word problems maybe (math again, lol)

d*m that math is an ever present factor is this comedy called life huh? man you most def need it for any good job thats pays cheddar....

mindcontrol wrote:why dont u set the bpm to w/e it is you want and then start building the beat?

.. thats the thing my desired beat is always 90 BPM.. thing is i'm still learnin wit the drums so i have a HARD as BUCK time tryin to get drums down on anything but 90BPM....

but d*m i think yall onto something wit the whole timestretch and compres s an all that, in another post i made i got some mad good info from dude
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=74614

ejectorset wrote:tune changes the pitch of the sample. much like on a turntable, it actually plays the sample slower to lower the pitch, faster to raise the pitch. this has the side-effect of changing the length of the sample. (how long the sample plays back for)

pitch-shift is the "opposite" of and very related to time-stretch.

pitch-shift changes the pitch of the sample but keeps the length the same.

time-stretch changes the length of the sample but keeps the pitch the same.

so if you have a strings melody sample that is 1 bar at 93bpm and you are making a beat that is 93bpm...

tune the strings sample up or down and it won't match up with your beat any more.

pitch-shift the strings sample up or down and will stay on time with your beat

if you slow your beat down because flows better at 88bpm you would then time-stretch the strings to make them fit the beat at 88bpm.

I'm try this next time.. but let me get it straight how is SIMPLY choppin up the loop gon help me? cuz even if i chop a 2 bar loop down into 8 pieces and i try to play it at my 2 bar tempo of 90BPM, i'ma run out of room or run short if the original 2bar loop was at 140BPM.. i guess i'm not seein it like that....

going by generous dudes info... if the flute sample sounds mad ill and i find out its at 110bpm if i time stretch it down to 90bpm to fit my desired tempo..it will no longer sound the same.. it will be slower.... so maybe thats the part i'm not catchin or understandin?

but main I'm mad excited, i mean ya gonna get on me like that..cuz to you this ish is old news but i feel like i'm on the verge of something new and great wit either the whole timestretch/compress thing....

but yeah thats what i love bout this beat makin, i be learnin a lot of new ish everday main...

THANK YOU ALL FOR THATT


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