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By MadFresh Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:23 pm
Theres no use of adding EQ, compression and all that **** when the drum sample is wack from the start

This is so true. If you want a dope kick - sample a dope kick. At least if you want your drums to sound rather organic.
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By mpc4000xl Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:06 pm
YEP.....................


THESE THINGZ HAVE BEEN TOUCHED ON ALOT IN "PRODUCTION TECHNIQUES"

SO DO A SEARCH HERE ON THIS FORM OR GOOGLE.................


FAT DRUMS, DRUM LAYERING, DRUM FILTERING ETC.........


SO YEZ THESE ARE ALL GOOD AT Times



EQ

COMPRESSION

LAYERING

DISTORTION (Sometimes Just A LIL IS HUGE)

BIT REDUCTION + RESAMPLING (DOWNSAMPLING)

REVERB + DELAY

PITCH CHANGING (TRUST THIS WILL MAKE SOME KICKS REALLY RUN!!!)

TRUNCATING (ENVELOPING -- ADJUSTING ATTACK, DECAY ETC)



AND DON'T FORGET DRUM MACHINE SOUNDS.................



808, 909, R8, LINN, DMX ETC..........................



ALSO TRY COMBININ' (LAYERING) SNARES WITH.....................


Tambourines, SHAKERS, CHAINS, CLAPZ, KEY SHAKES ETC

By burt Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:19 am
In addition to ultimate breaks and beats are there any other good breaks compilations that are worth pickin up? i hear q-bert has a good series
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By jonnyscratch Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:51 am
Dusty Fingers is cool although all the joints on 'em have been sampled before. Q-berts ish is more for cuttin and skratchin' over than breaks but a lot of those battle tool type records have plain drum loops if thats your thing.

Somre of the more recent stuff like Bully breaks and A traks monkeyboy breaks have a lot of one shot type drum sounds that are ideal for loading into the sampler.


Check for c2c flying suacer breaks and anything D-Styles has put his name to.




Peace
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By djobserv Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:48 pm
pick up every record you come across

and

listen to them

you'll be suprised at how many drum samples you'll come across....
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By MegaTON Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:45 pm
i got 2 alice cooper joints and they both got drum breaks...
even if i hear 1 snare or 1 kick on a record i sample it just incase i can find something to go with it on the record if u cant u can prolly find a kick or snare from other vinyl u got to go wit it
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By polarAC Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:31 am
Please don't mess with that Skull Snaps Break

If you don't flip it right, it will make your track sound like 1992
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By Housemaster Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:35 pm
"If you don't flip it right, it will make your track sound like 1992"

wouldn't that be a good thing though
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By Upright Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:49 pm
c0mplex wrote:
jnorth wrote:
people are forgetting about SAMPLE SELECTION. Theres no use of adding EQ, compression and all that **** when the drum sample is wack from the start. Yeah all that stuff helps and improves but can't clean a turd.


Man, i chop all my drums from dope and classic breaks.. as well as unknown dope as f**k breaks... but they still need work to really fattern them up and get them bangin like real hiphop drums...

I never used to think that and thought of it the same as u, untill i learnt and it clicked with me, especially as progression isnt as such just doing knew things and them making the difference but actually hearin the difference and it being aparent.. more or less like a form of enlightenment, and not matter how many times u are told or u read it or whatever, u will never truely know untill u realize and u know.

Even premier joints made with classic breaks, the drums are still layered filtered eq'd etc etc, its just done in a way so the layers work real coheisive and sound like 1 drum at the end.

Also u say u cant make wack drums good... i beg to differ coz u totally can, can fix them up and make them sound dope beyond belief actually.. u just gotta know ur sh!t. I used to think the same as u for long time untill I learnt my sh!t... but now i can tell u what u said totally doesnt apply.. and untill u realize urself and learn then u will hold urself back (I know i did exactly the same way).




This is some of the best advice you could take in this thread. Find breaks and drum loops and chop 'em up, then fatten 'em up using various methods. :D

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By roxstar Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:04 pm
Did any of you see the thread on how this new sound is ruining music? Do a search, or someone post the link. You don't need to fatten EVERYTHING. There are techniques for every situation (sound), so don't assume that Filtering and compression are needed for all your drums. Break beat records are good, but just about every record has something usable, from the 25 cent record, to the $100 record, a sound is a sound, and it's up to you to find the dopeness and chop it up.. everybody and their momma uses them same $20 break beat albums, so be different. Use your ears, and remember most recorded material had already been processed, so most of the work is already done for you.

By rondiesel Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:05 pm
get everything u got sampled and just keep it in the bank

dont always think that something is wack. its just probably not gonna work BY ITSELF.

u might layer it with something else and get something reallllyyyy nice out of it.

just remember that everything is better with a little tlc.

and the only specific tip i have for u is THERE IS NO DISCRIMINATION WHEN U HAVE IMAGINATION

save all the drums u come across dog
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By c0mplex Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:39 pm
roxstar wrote:Did any of you see the thread on how this new sound is ruining music? Do a search, or someone post the link. You don't need to fatten EVERYTHING. There are techniques for every situation (sound), so don't assume that Filtering and compression are needed for all your drums. Break beat records are good, but just about every record has something usable, from the 25 cent record, to the $100 record, a sound is a sound, and it's up to you to find the dopeness and chop it up.. everybody and their momma uses them same $20 break beat albums, so be different. Use your ears, and remember most recorded material had already been processed, so most of the work is already done for you.


U gettin it wrong.. the whole "new sound" thing that is "ruining music" is the loudness in the mastering stage.. from compressing limiting and turnin it up so loud.. its nothing to do with shaping ur sounds and a "fat" sound as aposed to the "loud" sound... nowadays the fat sound has been replaced with the loud sound, which is what is ruining music soundwise.. u got it wrong we're talking about the fat sound, im not even talking compression myself.. im talking filtering layering eq'n etc, if u understood the methods and how they can be applied to drums to make so much difference u wouldnt even be comin back how u are.

compression can be used to good effect with drums still.. but i wasnt even talking about, re read my post and think about it before responding.

I rarly use compression untill the mastering stage, hardly use it mixin at all.. but with my drums i'll occasionally use one on the hi hats with a real fast attack and big ratio to tighten them up so they more snappy and short
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By Robbinson Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:15 pm
I agree - Some drums just don't do it alone.
Nor will what you hearing always fit.

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By mainiakist Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:27 pm
Upright wrote:
episode wrote:you can turn practically any drum into a "hip hop" drum if you eq it correctly.


Compression, don't forget about compression. It can really fatten up your drums.

only with the right compressor i think though. some have the worst coloring effects that make drums sound dull. if you gonna compress, only minimal i recomend. there are ways to fatten up drums much more effectively. cause you gotta understand: compression is taking depth out of what you are putting it on. if drums are your leading instrument you dont want them to sound dull and less in depth. i hardly ever compress drums.
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