dumping from MPC1000 into Pro Tools 7

I've heard producers say when they finish a beat on the mpc that they dump it into pro tools. I guess it means using pro tools as a multitrack recorder and syncing it together with the mpc. How would you do this? Let me know. Thanks. (I have an mpc1000 and mbox 2)

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wow.. u have such a long way....... well first u would wanna midi your mpc to your mbox so that u can sync start them together.. next u wanna run your outputs of your mpc into the inputs of your mbox so that protools would recieve the sound coming out of your mpc...... let meknow once u get that far and ill tel u more

indivisibleProductions wrote:Search is your friend

Yep.

Also, how to midi connect to external gear is in each software/hardware manual. You'd help yourself faster by hittin up your manuals than waiting for a reply though.

It's also been stated many times over here in the forums, please do a search.

the young truth wrote:wow.. u have such a long way....... well first u would wanna midi your mpc to your mbox so that u can sync start them together.. next u wanna run your outputs of your mpc into the inputs of your mbox so that protools would recieve the sound coming out of your mpc...... let meknow once u get that far and ill tel u more

And so do you!


You never what to sync an mpc up via midi. It will drift out of time in about 5 seconds flat.

The only way to go is to free wheel the tracks one by one in to tools. make a click at the start of each sound. Then cut the waveform to the click.

GritKitz wrote:

the young truth wrote:wow.. u have such a long way....... well first u would wanna midi your mpc to your mbox so that u can sync start them together.. next u wanna run your outputs of your mpc into the inputs of your mbox so that protools would recieve the sound coming out of your mpc...... let meknow once u get that far and ill tel u more

And so do you!


You never what to sync an mpc up via midi. It will drift out of time in about 5 seconds flat.

The only way to go is to free wheel the tracks one by one in to tools. make a click at the start of each sound. Then cut the waveform to the click.

This is one way to go about it, especialy if you dont have a usb to midi or mbox2 plus with midi. However, you're completely wrong about losing sync. I midi my mpc with protools, and my hard disk recorder frequently, and its spot on thru the duration of the track.
I say start messing around with it and you'll find what works for you and your set up. Oh, and yeah, read the stinkin manuals bro!

no you are using a hard disk recorder.

If you sync to a computer its different . It gos out of time. I imagine hardware units are better setup.

Try this on a mac and protools,cubase or logic.

The results are always the same.

ive been syncing my mpc with protools for 6 years now and i have no latency problems what so ever... i dont know what your doing but if it goes off sync in 5sec, u need to do alot more reading

the young truth wrote:ive been syncing my mpc with protools for 6 years now and i have no latency problems what so ever... i dont know what your doing but if it goes off sync in 5sec, u need to do alot more reading

hmmmm......

Well i would be curious to know as to what midi interface you are using.

I have tried syncing tools and mpc a couple of years ago.

I was tracking one track at a time over midi. When i played back i noticed the timing to be drifting after about 30, 40 seconds.

It was also proved again when i tried to cut sections of the loop and loop them.


If you could test this. By recording a 2 minute song. 1 track at a time.

Making special care to record all the percussive elements as well.

Via midi sync.


I just thought it was common knowledge.



Incidentally. I am using a G4 ibook with a 1.4 ghz processor.

I was recording some virtual instruments in pro tools. Then bouncing them all at once by setting up the bus etc.


The loops were at 107bpm. and were 2 bar loops. I was pushing the processor a bit.


I then tried to load these in to my mpc with the same tempo. They were totally out of time!


Ok so maybe if i had less running then maybe it would be in closer time.

But to be honest. Someone said to me a while ago that computers played back in perfect time.

I knew this not to be true at all. But i wonder where this misinformation gets its legs from.

The computers and software i have used have never been tight. Midi is an absolute joke.

But also even virtual instruments are not that tight either, which is something i find rather odd.

GritKitz wrote:...

So...where's your best hip-hop track of the world finally?

Gritz is just too efing dope for the technology we have today!
He/she should build a time machine and fast forward to the future where things are more his/her speed.
Fool is a JOKE!!!

im using a digi 002mixer but ive always used pro tools and there has never been a problem...... i did notice that u said during your tracking at right about 30 seconds it became to go out of sync, well with what i do i never have to track a instrument that long because i do it by bars and my length is never longer than 16bars.... maybe your right about it going off sync somewhere down the road, but it just seems like it wouldnt...good luck

the young truth wrote:im using a digi 002mixer but ive always used pro tools and there has never been a problem...... i did notice that u said during your tracking at right about 30 seconds it became to go out of sync, well with what i do i never have to track a instrument that long because i do it by bars and my length is never longer than 16bars.... maybe your right about it going off sync somewhere down the road, but it just seems like it wouldnt...good luck

Funny thing is gritz first said 5 seconds then said 30 seconds.
Full of it!

the young truth wrote:im using a digi 002mixer but ive always used pro tools and there has never been a problem...... i did notice that u said during your tracking at right about 30 seconds it became to go out of sync, well with what i do i never have to track a instrument that long because i do it by bars and my length is never longer than 16bars.... maybe your right about it going off sync somewhere down the road, but it just seems like it wouldnt...good luck

Yes thats helpful.

I suppose it depends on your method of working. Personally i do a lot of sequencing in the mpc.

I normally move over to the box when its time to lay down the vocals/instruments.

I think that if you are working with small sections and then put them together on screen.

Your timing is gonna be good, because your groove elements are all tight.

I mean its not going to affect everyone. It depends what style you are doing and how tight you want it.


Also i would add that.

It depends on how you track the mpc. If you do the whole loop down to a stereo track. Then its not going to drift.

If you haven the mpc laying down the tracks via multiple outs to separate inputs on the sound card then it wont show up so much either.

I notice it very quickly because i do 1 track at a time. So every percussive
sound gets its own mix track.

Its really easy to spot when you do this because the whole beat just falls down the stairs!

Double post!