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By pieuvre Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:14 pm
the more they go the more evident becomes the copy but it still a roland stuff , not my kind !
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By Smoove03 Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:12 pm
looks nice. id stick wit the akai
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By pt3r Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:34 pm
Word, specs are nowhere near any of the mpc's.

By jontakiff Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:49 pm
this has got to be patent infringement...
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By Decepticon3107 Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:15 pm
Don't believe the hype... That machine sucks ass! 8 voice polyphony (mono, only 4 voice polyphony in stereo) and a 4-TRACK sequencer!! 4-TRACK!! Thats worthless, worthless, worthless!

To any newbies thinkin that the 606 is gonna be their savior, or a poor mans MPC, you're wrong! Keep saving for the 1000, or a used 2000, you won't regret it. I've used the 505 extensively and hated every minute of it, and the 606 is just a re-packaged 505 (with a few new gimmicks: "touch sensitive pads", useless "d-beam", etc...). The pads are garbage compared to an MPCs, you'll hate them. Go demo a 1000 at guitar center, then check out the 606. You'll see what i mean.
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By Decepticon3107 Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:26 pm
I almost forgot, the thing I hated the most was that there is no pitch adjustment, period. If you sample a loop off a record for example, at say, 65 bpms(an unuseable hip-hop tempo, for the most part), on the MPC you would just pitch it up to a useable tempo (80-100bpms). Well, not on the 505 or 606. No can do. All you have is Rolands incredibly wack excuse for timestretching, and if you've ever used a 505 then you know that isn't even a viable option. Even changing the tempo by 1 bpm results in horrible sound degradation and literally makes the sample UNUSEABLE. On a MPC you can chromatically lay out a sample, so you can play it on a keyboard. No can do again on the 505/606. You need pitch shifting for that feature, buddy. All the 505/606 has in that vein is a weak sauce imitation of the MPCs "16 levels" feature. The only catch is, since the 505/606 cant pitch shift, it uses its wack "timestretching" to map out whatever sample you choose over only 12 keys (1 octave), so the sample comes out horrible.

Don't do it to yourself. Keep saving for the MPC. You'll thank me later.
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By Smoove03 Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:02 pm
Decepticon3107 wrote:On a MPC you can chromatically lay out a sample, so you can play it on a keyboard.


can you juss tell me where i would go to do this? i been tryin to figure it out. how would this be done?
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By Lou-One Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:10 pm
Decepticon, thanks for laying that out there like that, and giving peeps the real deal. Not everyone knows the technical side. They just want something to make dope beats. Good public service announcement.
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By binger0 Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:13 pm
Smoove03 wrote:
Decepticon3107 wrote:On a MPC you can chromatically lay out a sample, so you can play it on a keyboard.


can you juss tell me where i would go to do this? i been tryin to figure it out. how would this be done?

under params it should say auto on one of the Fkeys
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By Decepticon3107 Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:21 pm
Word. I just don't want to see someone make the same mistake I made. I finally saved up enough to go buy a new 2000xl, but I saw the 505 was droppin, and the dude at guitar center made it sound dope, so i bought that instead.

As you can see, it was a big mistake. Glad I got rid of it.
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By Lou-One Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:26 pm
Word! we need more peeps to speak up like that. I'm not very technically savvy when it comes to music equipment myself. I'm a newbie and it gets confusing out there with all the gear that's available, and all the different options and choices....It's just so easy to make the wrong decision when your inexperienced....it's crazy out there!
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By Smoove03 Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:27 pm
binger0 wrote:
Smoove03 wrote:
Decepticon3107 wrote:On a MPC you can chromatically lay out a sample, so you can play it on a keyboard.


can you juss tell me where i would go to do this? i been tryin to figure it out. how would this be done?

under params it should say auto on one of the Fkeys



aight thanks

By elmacaco Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:14 am
as a newbie, I hope you know what you're in for with the 4000!!
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By pieuvre Wed Apr 14, 2004 9:14 am
here is my experience : a friend of mine bought a sp 202 when it came out ( i was using atari with pro 24 with a s1000 ) and when he began to sample the demo cd that came with his sampler i must confess i was jealous of how easy of use and "ready to burn " it was with complex comp breakbeats and stuff . 6 years later he still don't know s##t about anything and sold all his gear .
We have to remember that all the new stuffs came of analog synthesis , MIDI basics and early sampling then you can understand what companys want to sell .