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By Reakshon Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:58 am
I'm 24 and I'm just getting started. I have never used anything software or hardware. I dont think its ever to late for anything.
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By Science Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:28 am
MistaMike4u wrote:Aye man, age don't got nothin 2 do wit it.... it ain't about da age, it's about da hustle... u know, i never thought i'd have what i have, but i do, and i'm only 17, copped a motif 8 when i was fourteen from ma pops, since then it's been about the hustle... copped a custom built PC, copped a Digi 001, a MPC2000xl, a good **** Shure Condenser Mic.... Age isn't a weakness, unless u make it one....

Anyway it took me a while to really get to a good level because i didn't have real music around me... it took a while till i could go to different studios and listen to what they were doin what there music to find out what music is supposed 2 sound like....



ummm... u said your 17, and u copped a motif when you were 14? dude the motif just came out last year.
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By Prah_860_ Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:47 pm
Science wrote:
MistaMike4u wrote:Aye man, age don't got nothin 2 do wit it.... it ain't about da age, it's about da hustle... u know, i never thought i'd have what i have, but i do, and i'm only 17, copped a motif 8 when i was fourteen from ma pops, since then it's been about the hustle... copped a custom built PC, copped a Digi 001, a MPC2000xl, a good **** Shure Condenser Mic.... Age isn't a weakness, unless u make it one....

Anyway it took me a while to really get to a good level because i didn't have real music around me... it took a while till i could go to different studios and listen to what they were doin what there music to find out what music is supposed 2 sound like....



ummm... u said your 17, and u copped a motif when you were 14? dude the motif just came out last year.


motif came out in 2001....the es came out last year homie!

By TheMPCRipper Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:34 pm
Prah_860_ wrote:
Science wrote:
MistaMike4u wrote:Aye man, age don't got nothin 2 do wit it.... it ain't about da age, it's about da hustle... u know, i never thought i'd have what i have, but i do, and i'm only 17, copped a motif 8 when i was fourteen from ma pops, since then it's been about the hustle... copped a custom built PC, copped a Digi 001, a MPC2000xl, a good **** Shure Condenser Mic.... Age isn't a weakness, unless u make it one....

Anyway it took me a while to really get to a good level because i didn't have real music around me... it took a while till i could go to different studios and listen to what they were doin what there music to find out what music is supposed 2 sound like....



ummm... u said your 17, and u copped a motif when you were 14? dude the motif just came out last year.


motif came out in 2001....the es came out last year homie!


Either way, I would have never gotten a 1,500 gift from the fams, expecially at 14. If you parents got you a MO, you haven't been hustling, probably just waiting for birthdays and holidays.
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By MistaMike4u Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:14 pm
Nah, they copped the Motif 8 for me on Christmas... thats it... but thats where i got my start, it wasn't really for making beats, i wasn't even interested in makin beats, just got it for performances..... but since then i've only taken it out like 4 time to actually play on it... and trust i've been hustlin... since then,
I HAVE BOUGHT

Mpc2000xl
A $1200 custom built computer
A digi001
A Shure KSM27
A Stanton STR30
A Philips CD Burner
A Behringer Mixer
Sound Forge
Reason (Didn't pay for it though, and i don't use it)
and there is probably some small stuff i'm forgettin

Now thats a hustle pimp... So stop tryin 2 hoe me on da forums, cuz it's been a longgg hustle, not a spoil, and I probably put more shyt into this music thang than you have.
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By MistaMike4u Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:21 pm
and on TOP of that, all of it was LEGAL money.....

By TheMPCRipper Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:33 pm
Now thats a hustle pimp... So stop tryin 2 hoe me on da forums, cuz it's been a longgg hustle, not a spoil, and I probably put more shyt into this music thang than you have.[/quote]

I am just ufckin with you cuz of the age. 3 years is no way a long hustle. How do you figure you put more into this than me? I been doing this thing since your mom was wiping your crack.
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By MistaMike4u Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:37 pm
Dawg i'm not gone sit here and argue wit chu ova no stupid shyt, on some real, that ain't even ma style.. I'm talkin bout it was a long hustle to get equipment, not a long hustle makin music.... cuz i've been doin the music in some way or anotha since i was 5...... but i ain't even gone argue wit chu on our credentials, cuz i'm young, and im sure i've got less credentials then 99% of the peeps on this forum.... i'm just sayin don't try 2 hoe me on the forums and try 2 put me on tha spot and shyt, i was tryin 2 give this nig*a some advice and ya'll try to turn it around and flip that shit on me? I put a lot into this shit WITHOUT ma parents.... and even if it WAS wit ma parents, i still wouldn't give a FVCK what u had 2 say about it.... nuff said, i'm done talkin bout it
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By Prah_860_ Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:28 pm
MistaMike4u wrote:Dawg i'm not gone sit here and argue wit chu ova no stupid shyt, on some real, that ain't even ma style.. I'm talkin bout it was a long hustle to get equipment, not a long hustle makin music.... cuz i've been doin the music in some way or anotha since i was 5...... but i ain't even gone argue wit chu on our credentials, cuz i'm young, and im sure i've got less credentials then 99% of the peeps on this forum.... i'm just sayin don't try 2 hoe me on the forums and try 2 put me on tha spot and shyt, i was tryin 2 give this nig*a some advice and ya'll try to turn it around and flip that **** on me? I put a lot into this **** WITHOUT ma parents.... and even if it WAS wit ma parents, i still wouldn't give a FVCK what u had 2 say about it.... nuff said, i'm done talkin bout it


damn homie......calm down....holla at me later dude!
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By jonloc Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:55 am
binger0 wrote:
jonloc wrote:
binger0 wrote:I have been spending the last 7 months on learning music theory. It is very helpful because now I am writing my own melodies and songs down and being able to hear pitches and intervals in my head. It takes a long time to understand, but it really basic music 101 is a must if you make music. Just to know keys, scales, chords, mode, circle of fifths, intervals, harmony, melody, and notes and octoves. It is hard to understand some of it but it gets easier when you work on it.
Like this is to me a very important thing.
Halfsteps. Check it. Halfsteps are a white to black key on a piano. Whole steps are white to white key (2 halfsteps). (cept for the ones with no black keys). Now to sum up a lot of ish, this is how chords and scales are made. Pretty simple concept. These are called intervals.
on a keyboard the first key on the keyboard is a CthenDthenEthenF(notice e + f are together?) G, A, B, C(B+C together also) again. This is an octove. C to C. This is called the Chromatic Scale. Basicly these notes, pitches, are the same all the way up the scale. this is because music is in freqs. An a note = 440 hertz. That is how digi tuners work. Now an A on octove higher is 880. They double up to = the same note only higher pitch.
Now the notes between those (black keys) are called accidentials or sharps or flats. This means whicher ever way you are going that is the note. the black key between the d e is a D # (sharp) or an E b flat.
Still with me?
Now the same half steps needed to get to one another are the same all the way up the keys, frets, whatever
Okay so a major scale is 2-2-1-2-2-2-1 This is all halfsteps.
So first note is C, then 2 jumps (c shrap to d=2halfsteps) D then go another 2 = E, nother 1 =f then 2 =g, then 2=a, then 2 =b, then 1=c. This is the halfstep formula from any note just use half steps
This means that on a key board a major chord root (first note that you hit), 4, 3.
so lets start on the first key of the piano.
C go 4 half steps, so that would be c sharp then d then d sharp then e (4 half steps)
then from there go 3 halfsteps
f (1) F sharp (2) G (3) So its a G
Hold these 3 notes (C,E,G) = major chord
Minors formula= root, 3, 4
look at the halfsteps on this page down towards the bottom. You can just memorize the halfstep pattern for any scale, chord, and you will be able to play them. GOTO
http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/
Tah daow.


Take a class at community college. you will learn all of this stuff above and more. Whats three hours a week, for three months for a lifetime of skills?

I did take community college course on Music Theroy 101. And a lot of it was timing and notation. Basic stuff. Then they went into periods. I didnt learn anything new. But intervals and halfsteps have opened doors that I never new exsited.


Yea I took it to. but It made learning and other music theory a breez. ya feel me. what exactly are you talking about intervals and half-steps. I know what they are and all of that but it sounds like you may know somthing I dont. holla
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By MistaMike4u Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:01 am
jonloc wrote:
binger0 wrote:
jonloc wrote:
binger0 wrote:I have been spending the last 7 months on learning music theory. It is very helpful because now I am writing my own melodies and songs down and being able to hear pitches and intervals in my head. It takes a long time to understand, but it really basic music 101 is a must if you make music. Just to know keys, scales, chords, mode, circle of fifths, intervals, harmony, melody, and notes and octoves. It is hard to understand some of it but it gets easier when you work on it.
Like this is to me a very important thing.
Halfsteps. Check it. Halfsteps are a white to black key on a piano. Whole steps are white to white key (2 halfsteps). (cept for the ones with no black keys). Now to sum up a lot of ish, this is how chords and scales are made. Pretty simple concept. These are called intervals.
on a keyboard the first key on the keyboard is a CthenDthenEthenF(notice e + f are together?) G, A, B, C(B+C together also) again. This is an octove. C to C. This is called the Chromatic Scale. Basicly these notes, pitches, are the same all the way up the scale. this is because music is in freqs. An a note = 440 hertz. That is how digi tuners work. Now an A on octove higher is 880. They double up to = the same note only higher pitch.
Now the notes between those (black keys) are called accidentials or sharps or flats. This means whicher ever way you are going that is the note. the black key between the d e is a D # (sharp) or an E b flat.
Still with me?
Now the same half steps needed to get to one another are the same all the way up the keys, frets, whatever
Okay so a major scale is 2-2-1-2-2-2-1 This is all halfsteps.
So first note is C, then 2 jumps (c shrap to d=2halfsteps) D then go another 2 = E, nother 1 =f then 2 =g, then 2=a, then 2 =b, then 1=c. This is the halfstep formula from any note just use half steps
This means that on a key board a major chord root (first note that you hit), 4, 3.
so lets start on the first key of the piano.
C go 4 half steps, so that would be c sharp then d then d sharp then e (4 half steps)
then from there go 3 halfsteps
f (1) F sharp (2) G (3) So its a G
Hold these 3 notes (C,E,G) = major chord
Minors formula= root, 3, 4
look at the halfsteps on this page down towards the bottom. You can just memorize the halfstep pattern for any scale, chord, and you will be able to play them. GOTO
http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/
Tah daow.


Take a class at community college. you will learn all of this stuff above and more. Whats three hours a week, for three months for a lifetime of skills?

I did take community college course on Music Theroy 101. And a lot of it was timing and notation. Basic stuff. Then they went into periods. I didnt learn anything new. But intervals and halfsteps have opened doors that I never new exsited.


Yea I took it to. but It made learning and other music theory a breez. ya feel me. what exactly are you talking about intervals and half-steps. I know what they are and all of that but it sounds like you may know somthing I dont. holla


Yeah, i know intervals make chord building easy work... like taking the 1st third and fifth for the major, flat 3rd for a miner.... things like that.... Makes it easier to build chords when u know the theory behind it... Half steps can make basslines sound extremely great with halfsteps... start from like two half steps before the note, and climb the chromatics until u get to the note... makes the basslines sound solid, a lil trick i hear in jazz a lot and have picked up a lot in like gospel and stuff whenever i'm lookin at written music notes in songs or what not, just a lil somethin 2 think about....

Anyways, Prah, i'm straight.... i'm aight..
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By jonloc Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:06 am
MistaMike4u wrote:
jonloc wrote:
binger0 wrote:
jonloc wrote:
binger0 wrote:I have been spending the last 7 months on learning music theory. It is very helpful because now I am writing my own melodies and songs down and being able to hear pitches and intervals in my head. It takes a long time to understand, but it really basic music 101 is a must if you make music. Just to know keys, scales, chords, mode, circle of fifths, intervals, harmony, melody, and notes and octoves. It is hard to understand some of it but it gets easier when you work on it.
Like this is to me a very important thing.
Halfsteps. Check it. Halfsteps are a white to black key on a piano. Whole steps are white to white key (2 halfsteps). (cept for the ones with no black keys). Now to sum up a lot of ish, this is how chords and scales are made. Pretty simple concept. These are called intervals.
on a keyboard the first key on the keyboard is a CthenDthenEthenF(notice e + f are together?) G, A, B, C(B+C together also) again. This is an octove. C to C. This is called the Chromatic Scale. Basicly these notes, pitches, are the same all the way up the scale. this is because music is in freqs. An a note = 440 hertz. That is how digi tuners work. Now an A on octove higher is 880. They double up to = the same note only higher pitch.
Now the notes between those (black keys) are called accidentials or sharps or flats. This means whicher ever way you are going that is the note. the black key between the d e is a D # (sharp) or an E b flat.
Still with me?
Now the same half steps needed to get to one another are the same all the way up the keys, frets, whatever
Okay so a major scale is 2-2-1-2-2-2-1 This is all halfsteps.
So first note is C, then 2 jumps (c shrap to d=2halfsteps) D then go another 2 = E, nother 1 =f then 2 =g, then 2=a, then 2 =b, then 1=c. This is the halfstep formula from any note just use half steps
This means that on a key board a major chord root (first note that you hit), 4, 3.
so lets start on the first key of the piano.
C go 4 half steps, so that would be c sharp then d then d sharp then e (4 half steps)
then from there go 3 halfsteps
f (1) F sharp (2) G (3) So its a G
Hold these 3 notes (C,E,G) = major chord
Minors formula= root, 3, 4
look at the halfsteps on this page down towards the bottom. You can just memorize the halfstep pattern for any scale, chord, and you will be able to play them. GOTO
http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/
Tah daow.


Take a class at community college. you will learn all of this stuff above and more. Whats three hours a week, for three months for a lifetime of skills?

I did take community college course on Music Theroy 101. And a lot of it was timing and notation. Basic stuff. Then they went into periods. I didnt learn anything new. But intervals and halfsteps have opened doors that I never new exsited.


Yea I took it to. but It made learning and other music theory a breez. ya feel me. what exactly are you talking about intervals and half-steps. I know what they are and all of that but it sounds like you may know somthing I dont. holla


Yeah, i know intervals make chord building easy work... like taking the 1st third and fifth for the major, flat 3rd for a miner.... things like that.... Makes it easier to build chords when u know the theory behind it... Half steps can make basslines sound extremely great with halfsteps... start from like two half steps before the note, and climb the chromatics until u get to the note... makes the basslines sound solid, a lil trick i hear in jazz a lot and have picked up a lot in like gospel and stuff whenever i'm lookin at written music notes in songs or what not, just a lil somethin 2 think about....

Anyways, Prah, i'm straight.... i'm aight..


yup
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By binger0 Sat Apr 17, 2004 5:51 am
im talking more just about half step formulas. You can do any chord or scale from any key if you know the half step formulas. Intervals are a pain in da a$$ half steps, are much eaiser to rember. Like a
C major chord
is
4, 3

so that means from the c key. I go 4 half steps(C#, D, D#, then E) so E is the next key I have to hold down in the chord. Then I go another 3 halfsteps. (F, F#,then G). This is the last key (g) you hold down. So a C major chord is when you press CEG at the same time.
It works on any key. Just got 4, then 3 from the key you want to find.
A major scales halfstep formula = 2-2-1-2-2-2-1
SO for a C major scale I would go
2 from C, = D
then another 2 halfsteps =E
Then 1 = F
then 2=G
then 2= A
then 2 = B
then 1 =C
so
2-2-1-2-2-2-1
works on any key or fret.

This page has every scale and chords halfstep formula.
http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/

Now you can take all that interval sh** and throw it out the window. You now know how to do any scale and any chord from any key on a keyboard.
Remeber a half step is just the next key in succesoin.
Image
Aight a halfstep is the first white key to the black key right next to it. That is a half step. A whole step would be the first white key to the second white key.
4 half steps would be to the first white key to the 3 white key. Because you are counting the black keys also. Its like jumpin accorss stones.
Also for the musically imparred. The keys notes are like this
C, C# (the 1 black key) then D D# E F F# (3rd black key), then G, G#, A, A#, B then C. Those notes can equal flats going from the last white key back down the line.
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By Sketchman Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:49 am
16?

You are really young.You have time to develop.

Im 20, and i think that i have to make some records.Im allready too old to wait.16 is young but around 20-25 i feel that thats the years that you got to start making it happen if youre serious about what youre doing.
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By jonloc Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:46 am
binger0 wrote:im talking more just about half step formulas. You can do any chord or scale from any key if you know the half step formulas. Intervals are a pain in da a$$ half steps, are much eaiser to rember. Like a
C major chord
is
4, 3

so that means from the c key. I go 4 half steps(C#, D, D#, then E) so E is the next key I have to hold down in the chord. Then I go another 3 halfsteps. (F, F#,then G). This is the last key (g) you hold down. So a C major chord is when you press CEG at the same time.
It works on any key. Just got 4, then 3 from the key you want to find.
A major scales halfstep formula = 2-2-1-2-2-2-1
SO for a C major scale I would go
2 from C, = D
then another 2 halfsteps =E
Then 1 = F
then 2=G
then 2= A
then 2 = B
then 1 =C
so
2-2-1-2-2-2-1
works on any key or fret.

This page has every scale and chords halfstep formula.
http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/piano/

Now you can take all that interval sh** and throw it out the window. You now know how to do any scale and any chord from any key on a keyboard.
Remeber a half step is just the next key in succesoin.
Image
Aight a halfstep is the first white key to the black key right next to it. That is a half step. A whole step would be the first white key to the second white key.
4 half steps would be to the first white key to the 3 white key. Because you are counting the black keys also. Its like jumpin accorss stones.
Also for the musically imparred. The keys notes are like this
C, C# (the 1 black key) then D D# E F F# (3rd black key), then G, G#, A, A#, B then C. Those notes can equal flats going from the last white key back down the line.

thanks, but I thought you knew somthing I didnt. good shit though.