DEEP CRATES II

its 9 files but theyre all the same

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It's really sad that dudes that produce Hip-Hop can't support it. Cats are out here struggling, some known (saw Kev's cd on the site also) and ya'll can't even support to show appreciation. I know Onra personally and to see his cd on there also is just wack. His music is dope and the guy has nothing. Sites and folks that rather not pay are the main reasons why real hip-hop won't get out the bedrooms and basements. I can completely understand bootlegging some commercial wack schyt, but we all know that real hip-hop producers (music or movies) put more heart and soul into their products. Chances are your not going to get one or two good songs from a 15 track cd, (you may get one or 2 bad ones) but the majority of a product is good. Deep crates 1 was dope. I haven't seen part 2 yet (ordered it almost 2 weeks ago) but not supporting it will probably kill all chances of a part 3.
Just do yourself a favor and think about what your doing.

roxstar wrote:It's really sad that dudes that produce Hip-Hop can't support it. Cats are out here struggling, some known (saw Kev's cd on the site also) and ya'll can't even support to show appreciation. I know Onra personally and to see his cd on there also is just wack. His music is dope and the guy has nothing. Sites and folks that rather not pay are the main reasons why real hip-hop won't get out the bedrooms and basements. I can completely understand bootlegging some commercial wack schyt, but we all know that real hip-hop producers (music or movies) put more heart and soul into their products. Chances are your not going to get one or two good songs from a 15 track cd, (you may get one or 2 bad ones) but the majority of a product is good. Deep crates 1 was dope. I haven't seen part 2 yet (ordered it almost 2 weeks ago) but not supporting it will probably kill all chances of a part 3.
Just do yourself a favor and think about what your doing.

CO mother fking SIGN

BeatznBooze wrote:

roxstar wrote:It's really sad that dudes that produce Hip-Hop can't support it. Cats are out here struggling, some known (saw Kev's cd on the site also) and ya'll can't even support to show appreciation. I know Onra personally and to see his cd on there also is just wack. His music is dope and the guy has nothing. Sites and folks that rather not pay are the main reasons why real hip-hop won't get out the bedrooms and basements. I can completely understand bootlegging some commercial wack schyt, but we all know that real hip-hop producers (music or movies) put more heart and soul into their products. Chances are your not going to get one or two good songs from a 15 track cd, (you may get one or 2 bad ones) but the majority of a product is good. Deep crates 1 was dope. I haven't seen part 2 yet (ordered it almost 2 weeks ago) but not supporting it will probably kill all chances of a part 3.
Just do yourself a favor and think about what your doing.

CO mother fking SIGN

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lol fall back.

this is a touchy subject i know. but if these artists that you say are "struggling" are doing music to profit from it, thats there fault. dont think that because ppl download they are not appreciating it, thats not what it is at all. and why do you want hiphop to get out of the bedrooms and basements? if u ask me it should stay there, thats where it started, now we have commercial which was initially in the bedrooms and basements and look at it now? quality of music is down quite a bit.

i love music just as much as they do or even more, and if i become more successful in the future, i would know off the bat that ppl will bootleg and download, i personally just see it as "any promotion is good promotion". i do try and buy when i can though, since it just feels better and u get an original copy.

Word the **** up!

" and why do you want hiphop to get out of the bedrooms and basements?"
"if these artists that you say are "struggling" are doing music to profit from it, thats there fault."

wtf?? It's their fault that you'd rather steal their material than pay for it?? We ALL have dreams, and 100% of us have imagined our music playing on the radio, TV, having our own episode on MTV cribs, or receiving a million dollar check from a label and if you say you don't then your lying! I'm not sure how old you are, but when you have real life dilemmas (kids, raising cost of products in general, a wack job that you HAVE to go to that doesn't pay enough, wife/baby mama etc and the only real thing that you passionately enjoy doing is making music, then I feel that you should be paid (if your dope) to do what you love to do. Most good hip-hop producers are miles ahead better than the common commercial producer, and to give away their material just because they love doing what they do is stoopid! Apply for a job that you'd love to work and tell the owner you'd do it for free!
Why do you feel it's ok to steal from the people that really don't have anything? Do you really think spending $6 on Kev Brown cd will make him go pop? People like you are killing music. Hip-hop is close to dead and your kicking it while it's down.
Commercial music praises thugs and Drug dealers for making money and poisoning people and your over here trying to make sure the only piece of positive hip-hop remains locked away.
You should also know that most underground Hip-Hop rarely sells more than a few thousand, so every penny counts. If you've never put together a cd, just the initial cost for 100 can cost more than a box of chocolates if you get the material mixed and mastered cheaply. They do this so it sound good when you listen to it. If they knew you didn't want to pay for it and their costs wern't going to get re-couped they would simply give it away, or not make it at all.
Keep in mind, I'm not talking about a $5000 vst plug-in that you may not need but simply want to try.. were talking about a measly $15 (with shipping) or less cd from someone that you would want to hear!

well we obviously have different views on this, but your acting like these artists dont sell music AT ALL, or dont get any money AT ALL. many of these artist are making more than many of us... Plus your saying that ppl like me are killing hiphop. I dont know why i would be killing hiphop because i download music. If you have passion for this music, just because someone is downloading your music doesnt mean you are goin to quit making music, and it doesnt mean in killing hiphop culture. lets look at the bigger picture here instead of worrying about ppl downloading music, thats not whats killing hiphop. whats killing "hiphop" is the bad publicity its constantly getting. but hiphop is still alive and well.

"many of these artist are making more than many of us..."

Firstly, many of you on here don't even have jobs, live at home with moms, or whatever, so that wouldn't take much money at all do make more money than you got. I'm not talking about you personally, but that's a weak excuse.

"I dont know why i would be killing hiphop because i download music. If you have passion for this music, just because someone is downloading your music doesnt mean you are goin to quit making music"

Understand, there are two major reasons why Hip-hop is in this weak situation. #1-Corporations (money) and #2-Downloading (lack of money).
And no, downloading Onra's cd, or Deep Crates 2 won't mean that they will stop doing their thing, but it definately slows the process. Remember, were not talking about your one single download, there are millions of people doing the same thing, so multiply you times 500,000.

"whats killing "hiphop" is the bad publicity its constantly getting. but hiphop is still alive and well."

Ohh boy.. how can anyone afford publicity when you can't support the product in the first place? Put yourself in their place! The times and money to simply come up with a product. Getting it packaged together. Getting it pressed up, and now you expect them to have the money for video's, commercials, stickers, dolls, lunchboxes, t-shirts, etc without selling anyting?? Is hip-hop alive, barely, why is it dying, because of people like yourself.
Ya know.. Just making music isn't easy. Buying equipment over the years , I've probably spent about $10,000 on stuff that I didn't like! I love what I do so I keep on doing it. There is no value in "free." It's the same reason that Mc's come round my house, record to a beat (for free) and can't even bring a $1 blank cd to take 'their' own material home. 90% of the time, the music goes no where.. their happy playing the songs while driving around, smoking blunts with their boys. If they paid for the beat, and paid $50/hour to lay their vocals, the songs would be pushed harder. Why? Because they invested in the material. I'm not just blaming you, but if NO-ONE wants to pay for anything then NO-ONE succeeds! There's not enough support. Flat-out!

Is hip-hop alive, barely, why is it dying, because of people like yourself.

heres the thing we will never agree, because one, you think its ppl like me and that downloading is a reason for why hiphop is dying.

2. we cant agree because you think hiphop is dead. which i totally disagree with.

hiphop is a culture. it is alive and well. just because you and me arent hearing our fav artists on the radio doesnt mean that its dead or dying. the underground scene is booming with alot of good music, and the commercial scene is controlling the music charts. and the culture is also still strong around the world.

"we cant agree because you think hiphop is dead. which i totally disagree with."

I'll never say it's dead. Nothing is dead. Rag-time music is probably still be played somewhere... one man band music with a monkey on his back is probably still playing somewhere... Africans are still bangin' sticks together with a crowd of naked niggums hoppin' around em "somewhere" but their all dying genre's of music. If you don't think hip-hop is on life support, then tell me the last time you heard Wu Tang/Common/KRS-one/Dilla or Madlib getting heavy rotation on TV or the radio...

roxstar wrote:"we cant agree because you think hiphop is dead. which i totally disagree with."

I'll never say it's dead. Nothing is dead. Rag-time music is probably still be played somewhere... one man band music with a monkey on his back is probably still playing somewhere... Africans are still bangin' sticks together with a crowd of naked niggums hoppin' around em "somewhere" but their all dying genre's of music. If you don't think hip-hop is on life support, then tell me the last time you heard Wu Tang/Common/KRS-one/Dilla or Madlib getting heavy rotation on TV or the radio...

see thats your main flaw right there. very weak argument.. just because Wu Tang/Common/KRS-one/Dilla or Madlib dont get heavy rotation on TV or the radio doesnt mean hiphop is on life support. hiphop is a culture anyway, so what we are talking about is rap music. and even so like i mentioned earlier just because your favourite artists are not getting played doesnt mean that anything is dying. Its a new day and age. those guys u mentioned had their place or wouldve had their place when that type of hiphop was mainstream, but if u turned on the tv or radio, u would notice that its a different story today. The commercial rap scene is dominating the charts like we all know, so that means rap music is not dying at all. The one and only reason to why ppl think its dying is because they dont like the music that is being played on tv and radio. There were ppl in 93-97 that thought the game was dying aswell, but most of us cherish that period.

the battle for ultimate hiphop nerd-dom continues..