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By YoungLik Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:23 pm
Alright, I am tired of researching and need you guys help. I understand MIDI to start off, at least the parts I need to know. I currently have a Triton Extreme and Fantom X8 connected to my MPC and I am using the X8 as the main control, awesome setup. I want to purchase the Motif ES Rack but I don't know how I can route it with my setup being I am using all the MIDI ins and outs on the MPC. Does anyone have any suggestions on how it can be done and has anyone done the same thing. I am thinking I might just have to buy the MPC2500, which I don't want to do because I never ever ever use the MPC for drums, I just use it for MIDI sequencing.
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By Lithion Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:55 pm
why not use the midi through on the triton extreme for your new keyboard, or buy a midi patch bay?

By reuven Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:17 am
oooor, this might be waaaay off what you want to do, but it would minimize everything for you and give you more space... Sell the triton, fantom, and the mpc. Buy the triton and fantom racks, and get the new Akai MPK49. If i remember correctly, the MPK has sequencing built into it, plus its a midi controller keyboard and has the mpc pads... This is the setup i plan to make here when i can obtain the cash.

By YoungLik Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:03 am
Lithion, I tried that but couldn't get it to work. Could you explain it to me correctly, I may have been doing something wrong. Thanx for the reply too playa.
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By thedvs01 Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:13 pm
reuven wrote:oooor, this might be waaaay off what you want to do, but it would minimize everything for you and give you more space... Sell the triton, fantom, and the mpc. Buy the triton and fantom racks, and get the new Akai MPK49. If i remember correctly, the MPK has sequencing built into it, plus its a midi controller keyboard and has the mpc pads... This is the setup i plan to make here when i can obtain the cash.


The MPK is only a controller -- no sequencing or sampling
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By Lithion Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:16 am
It seems like if you want to get the motif rack that you should use the midi through of the triton to trigger the sounds via the X8, or you could have the mpc trigger the sounds, then the x8 triggers the mpc, which in turn triggers the motif rack.

I dunno this is kind of confusing because your setup is extremely redundant. You have a triton extreme which is a sequencer/sampler/piano, a fantom X8 which is a sequencer/sampler/piano, a mpc which is a sequencer/sampler, and now you want to get another rack mount synthesizer which is basically gonna give you more sounds that you already have? So much overlap.

if you buy the rack, the midi in of the rack gets plugged into the triton midi thru

then do a handshake with the triton and the mpc


then do a handshake with the mpc and the fantom x8

but really this would be a lot easier if you sold the triton extreme and bought the triton rack instead.

also when you use a thru channel you have to set the rack on a specific midi channel so that the triton/mpc/x8 knows when you are trying to access that specific device. Experiment with it a little until you get the right configuration. good luck!
By YoungLik Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:49 pm
Preciate you help guys, I finally got it figured out. Lithion was right with routing with the MIDI and that worked. Big ups to Lithion. Hold it down playaz. Young Lik
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By Lampdog Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:59 pm
reuven wrote:oooor, this might be waaaay off what you want to do, but it would minimize everything for you and give you more space... Sell the triton, fantom, and the mpc. Buy the triton and fantom racks, and get the new Akai MPK49. If i remember correctly, the MPK has sequencing built into it, plus its a midi controller keyboard and has the mpc pads... This is the setup i plan to make here when i can obtain the cash.


Why is your solution to spend more money and to have sequencing in the mpk when it's ONLY a controller, no sequencing, you should try to be more informed and precise when suggesting stuff. :?

By reuven Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:33 pm
Lampdog wrote:
reuven wrote:oooor, this might be waaaay off what you want to do, but it would minimize everything for you and give you more space... Sell the triton, fantom, and the mpc. Buy the triton and fantom racks, and get the new Akai MPK49. If i remember correctly, the MPK has sequencing built into it, plus its a midi controller keyboard and has the mpc pads... This is the setup i plan to make here when i can obtain the cash.


Why is your solution to spend more money and to have sequencing in the mpk when it's ONLY a controller, no sequencing, you should try to be more informed and precise when suggesting stuff. :?


maybe you should try reading about the product before being an ****. It has sequencing, so perhaps you should try to learn how to read specs before trying to "school" someone.
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By Lampdog Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:28 am
It cannot sequence.

Spending more money is not the solution.

It doesn't have a sequencer in it.


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By reuven Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:20 pm
Lampdog wrote:It cannot sequence.

Spending more money is not the solution.

It doesn't have a sequencer in it.


THE NEXT GENERATION OF USB/MIDI PERFORMANCE CONTROLLERS.

Maximize musical ideas on-stage or in a home studio setting with the
new Akai MPK49 performance controller. The Akai MPK49 ushers
in a new era for USB/MIDI controllers by combining a high-quality,
49-key, semi-weighted keyboard with aftertouch and 12 MPC-style
drum pads. 48 total pads are accessible via 4 pad banks. The pads
feature popular MPC Note Repeat function and Swing parameters,
and the Akai MPK49 performance controller has its own arpeggiator,
for creating quick, creative riffs in seconds.
The Akai MPK49 features MPC-style Full Level and 12 Levels
functions on its pads, and MPC Swing can be applied to both Note
Repeat and Arpeggio functions. Tap Tempo and time-division buttons
allow for real-time control of Note Repeat and Arpeggio clock speeds.
The Akai MPK49 delivers an amazing 72 assignable controls, with
assignable inputs that include an expression pedal, footswitch, pitch
bend and modulation wheel.

Discover the next generation of USB/MIDI controllers. Step up to the
Akai MPK49.

FEATURES
MPK49
SEMI-WEIGHTED KEYBOARD WITH 12 MPC-STYLE DRUM PADS

8 full-sized, 360 degree rotation pots,
each with 3 banks for 24 pots total

8 full-sized sliders with 3 controller banks
for each for 24 sliders total

8 assignable backlit switches with 3 controller
banks each for 24 switches total

MMC/MIDI Start Stop transport buttons
Large, easy-to-read custom LCD display


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By fader-pro Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:58 pm
All you need is a MIDI cable - MIDI data sent to any module or keyboard will be passed directly through the MIDI thru of that device. Just assign a different MIDI channel for each "voice" or "patch"....You may need to disable that particular MIDI channel in the device you don't want to hear....
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By Lampdog Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:10 pm
reuven wrote:..........MIDI sequencing


This meaning, it can CONTROL via MIDI, ie control a sequencer.
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By dabmeister Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:56 pm
Lampdog wrote:
This meaning, it can CONTROL via MIDI, ie control a sequencer.
Lampdog's right, the mpk is only a controller. Just like my Roland A-70 which has a dedicated sequencer section and is only for external control over another sequencer. I personally have never ever used that feature because I never had to, too many other & better options.
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By Lampdog Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:18 pm
that roland looks and specs reads to be a monster. the aftertouch and selectable velocity curve are also found in the asr10. that has curve was GOOD to me, lol. I loved it. my triton extreme has it as well.