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By freezerman Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:10 pm
Maybe this is a stupid question, but I 've looked at all my vinyls and couldn't find anywhere the date on them. The copyright information or recording date is always visible, but is there a way to know when a record was actually manufactured/released?
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By devmode Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:26 pm
Have you even tried searching the internet?

cduniverse.com has original release years listed under or around reissue dates for a few. Would help you find out when it came out.
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By Sheldon Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:48 pm
wikipedia ?? :?: :?

By spectre Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:01 pm
Yeah I hate those ones that don't have the date. There are other sources though like books and the internet.
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By freezerman Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:06 am
thanks for the inputs. I already thought about searching the internet, but it does not necessarily help: for instance, when you have a re-issue in your hands there is apparently no way to tell it apart from the original issue. For example, with Rhino records re-issues, apart from a little sticker on the sleeve, the record is a perfect replica, from cover to labels, of the original. So even if an internet site or catalog gives you the date of the original issue, and of subsequent re-issues with pictures and everything, how can you tell from what batch the record you own is from?
With books there is always the actual printing date on the book, so you know easily when it was printed. Apparently with records it is not the case. I have a few records that have a date on them, but they are definitely a minority.
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By dj e.d.e Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:42 pm
freezerman wrote:thanks for the inputs. I already thought about searching the internet, but it does not necessarily help: for instance, when you have a re-issue in your hands there is apparently no way to tell it apart from the original issue. For example, with Rhino records re-issues, apart from a little sticker on the sleeve, the record is a perfect replica, from cover to labels, of the original. So even if an internet site or catalog gives you the date of the original issue, and of subsequent re-issues with pictures and everything, how can you tell from what batch the record you own is from?
With books there is always the actual printing date on the book, so you know easily when it was printed. Apparently with records it is not the case. I have a few records that have a date on them, but they are definitely a minority.


rhino is a reissue label, they get the music from the main album the songs on there should have the artist full name or label on it.

from my experience 64 65 the labels started puttin the date on them more freqently, i have have seen some in the 50's but thats usually 45's or elvis /beatles some big names like that.

and the copyright date iis what you look for for the date, only LIVE records have the actuall date and time it was recorded.

telling it a reissue: well you cant on some but mostly on the older ones you can tell by the cardboard on the insde if it looks grey or brown then it's most likly OG, NNOW to tell if it's a first ress you have to research like a moofucer, i rahter have a 1st - or 2nd press reissue then one that just came out today cause the sound wont be the same. you can also tell by the art work, reissues/rrepress's are not at clean looking as the OG,the best thing i can tell you to get is a record price guild and that you have to research aslo to get a great book...... ican tell you this much tho the good books are expensive.

By spectre Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:49 am
freezerman wrote:thanks for the inputs. I already thought about searching the internet, but it does not necessarily help: for instance, when you have a re-issue in your hands there is apparently no way to tell it apart from the original issue. For example, with Rhino records re-issues, apart from a little sticker on the sleeve, the record is a perfect replica, from cover to labels, of the original. So even if an internet site or catalog gives you the date of the original issue, and of subsequent re-issues with pictures and everything, how can you tell from what batch the record you own is from?
With books there is always the actual printing date on the book, so you know easily when it was printed. Apparently with records it is not the case. I have a few records that have a date on them, but they are definitely a minority.


Well if you want to know the dates just to tell if you've got a reissue or not there's a few more ways to knowing. One way to tell is by the condition of the record. I doubt a reissue is gonna be in the same shape as a used original. Look at the inner sleeve. Is it white? Chances are it's a reissue if the paper ain't a little yellowed. Unless someone switched that shit.

dj e.d.e wrote:and the copyright date iis what you look for for the date, only LIVE records have the actuall date and time it was recorded.


That's not true all the time though. Some will tell you when they were recorded. Like for one example a lot of my CTI records (all of them?) have the actual dates that they made the music. I've seen them on a whole bunch of others too.