its a drum ting

whoever can help me wid dis is , much appreciated
when writing drum tracks on da mpc, i heard people write drums at 33bpm and 45bpm for hip hop.im writing at 90-100 bpm. is there any reason for hip hop cats 2 write at 33-45 bpm? is it in any way related to on ur turntable that 33rpm ish i see on all vinyl ?
who ever helps me is da daps on da mpc

safe
t

What up Mr. T

Never heard of anyone programming at 30-40 or anything lower than say 75. 90+ tends to be it, or double time in some harsher stuff.

It'd make sense to program extremely complicated rhythms at a low bpm and jack it up once they were done so it'd really shake, but most hiphop stuff isn't all that complicated rhythm wise anyway, it's all about groove rather than complexity.

And tempo has absolutely nothing to do with record speed, other than the fact that you can adjust pitch/tempo by adjusting record speed.

No clue on this one, mate.

Peace,
-tank

I think you (or the guy you heard it from) got something wrong.. Arent you just confusing the settings on a turntable with something else? I always make my sequencing in about 80 bpm then speed it up to 90+ when im done.

Sounds like you are confusing turntable RPM with BPM. RPM is revolutions per minute, BPM is beats per minute.

MPC-Tutor wrote:Sounds like you are confusing turntable RPM with BPM. RPM is revolutions per minute, BPM is beats per minute.

Actually its beats per measure.

Got to agree with Thynctank on this one , I'm feeling everything he said.
My only addition is that sometime when I want to get a beat riffin' hard I will drop the original tempo down to say 75bpm. This then gives me enough time and space to work with. May also use the step edit and set the timing from 1/16 to 1/16(3) to place beats precisely where I want them. When I'm finished I'll jack the beat back to the original tempo and badabing badaboom ypu have a tight beat.

why would u write it at 1/16 (3) , instead of 1/16?

Okay, Ima try my hardest to explain why I do beats in 1/16(3) triplets.
Working in this time signature helps me to place kicks, snares hats where I want them without the overall feel sounding out of time. For instance I'll place a kick right after the main kick but at a lesser velocity so it will sound like a double kick but with delay. Its really hard to explain without showing you what the hell I mean.
Ever listened to a Pete rock track (Soul Survivor) and felt the way he uses the kick in his track? He'll have a main kick and then place other kicks at a lesser velocity just after to create a feel. So it will be
Xx + X + Xx x+ Xx instead of the rigid X + X + X + (large X donates the main kick, small x donates a kick at a lesser velocity, normally half and + donates the snare). If you don't use the velocity/16 levels, sh*t is just going to sound like noise.
If you're ever in the South London area of Lewisham/Catford I'll show you the deal. I'm just working this way because its what i'm most comfortable with and what works for me...

ejw, it's beats per minute, no question. Por ejemplo: the oft-referenced correlary between a classic house beat (not my bag but I got friends) and a baby's heart beat, which is somewhere in the vicinity of 120 beats per minute.

Pretty off topic, I realize, but it bugged me someone bothering to correct that bit incorrectly.

Ciao,
-thynctank

on my mpc i have tempo around 180 bpm but program like it was 90 bpm. it means when the song gets counted in i dont have to wait as long to program and it has a bit more control when trying to beat match to add an accapella later.
peas.