Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By young_keyz Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:15 am
Whats up fam! I have just got done creating 64 great kicks for my mpc by layering kicks with other kicks. Now my next challenge is to create some great sounding snares. My frist problem is, unlike layering kicks sometimes layering one snare with another may give you a different type or original sound snare but nothing that you may want to use night in and night out. First before i pull out the good old compressors i want to find out some things i could do turn the snares i have into good ones cause there not that bad but now compare to my drums they are now weak and i need to beef them up. what do you guys do.
thanks
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By butcher Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:37 am
vinyl....
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By young_keyz Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:47 am
Thanks butcher but thats what everybody says and if you read my post you would understand that i have a good collection of snares aready i was looking for some tips on how to beef them up.....
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By effekt Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:52 am
use the C4 plug-in
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By binger0 Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:38 am
use tuning and res on the layered snare and lower velocity. **** wit it till it sounds right
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By young_keyz Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:01 am
yea i found that works but since i layer my kicks my snares, rims, and claps, sound weak.....maybe somebody some kind of layer trick they do...

By guitman Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:39 am
Snares sound great through a guitar amp or if you have an amp modeler, that would work too.

By TerroristProphecy Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:34 am
guess it all depends on what ur idea of 'good' is.. i layer mine (something with a 'thud' and something with a 'clack' usually) and then play around with compression til they're loud and banging enough to smash drinking glasses.

By TheMPCRipper Thu Apr 22, 2004 12:37 pm
Gate it up to white noise.
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By MattMatiks PG Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:12 pm
Yea, when layering snares, another trick is to make sure the snares have a similar sound... For instance, sometimes I have to pitch shift one of the snares because it has a basic pitch that is like a half step above where the other one is... If your somewhat musical you would see how this would create an undesired sound... Dissonance... I know a lot of people don't think of drums as having pitch, but they do and sometimes just pitch shifting can go a long way in helping to layer sounds... Also Compress it with white noise... It gives the snare a nice amount of head room to really get it pumpin and let it expand to hit really hard... Try playin with distortion too... Cyanide is a real good VST pLug-in... Add a little distortion from there to get your snares to snap... You'd be surprised what a subtle distortion can add to a snare...
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By digital_bastard Thu Apr 22, 2004 1:21 pm
Good tips.
Also try shortening the decay time to remove rattle and make it more focused.

Try layering with weird noises too, like a lowpitched hihat with a _really_ short decay time to add some "tzchick" to the beginning of the hit.

Also, compression is your friend.

By mwalker Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:56 pm
compression, reverb and a tad (very little) of delay

By cashstill Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:50 am
Get a program that allows you to use Plugins and cop about a hundred free downloadable versions (maybe 10 of these you may use often, all of em ain't great.)

and start running dem shitz through all different types of effects & filters and as mention compressing them.

(as mention above, basically you got to get into Sound Design almost to start creating a "sound" for your music)

Oh yeah, and don't forget the insert sound into Sample feature on the MPC you can invent some unique hitting snares like that also.

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By Iceberg-Slim Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:38 pm
Filters work magic, add EQ ontop of that

(I know Filters and EQ is technically the same thing)
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By ieism Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:41 pm
MattMatiks PG wrote: Cyanide is a real good VST pLug-in... Add a little distortion from there to get your snares to snap... You'd be surprised what a subtle distortion can add to a snare...


I couldn't agree more.