MPC1000 pads

hang in there brosephs

i have to give a salute to the fact that we've actually gotten akai to acknowledge the fact that they screwed up

this is the number 1 site for mpc information
and we are very very lucky that it is owned by andy (tutor) and NOT akai
gives us the opportunity to say this:

"DUDES, WHY THE HELL CANT YOU MAKE WORKING SAMPLERS ANYMORE, HUH?"

hahah, yeah really

and to those who's pads still work..maybe you just arent as physical with your pads but mine are almost all shot to sh!t.. because i have used my mpc for alot of live drumming etc... they will eventualy wear out.. you shouldnt have to watch out how hard you press them, thats bullsh!t...for 1300$??? i dont think so...well to a certain extent of course. anyways thanks for the constant info nym, lookin forward to finaly being able to use my 1000 again sometimes soon...ive been making beats int he past few months using 3-4 pads. its ridiculous.

yeah Nick at VST is really nice and a informative person. anywho, I cant wait to see what the outcome of this is when the pad fix arrives

Antonym wrote:i have to give a salute to the fact that we've actually gotten akai to acknowledge the fact that they screwed up

how did you picked that up?

well, it's evident from akai's upcoming pad fix. they are going to describe it as an "upgrade" but we all really know what it is.

has there been any real word from akai about this? or is everybody talking about this solely based on rumors on this website?

any word on this upgrade? i emailed akai support - suprise - they never got back to me.


cheers


f

i got 3 pads close to death and a mode and shift button who keeps having a mind of its own..

Antonym wrote:well, it's evident from akai's upcoming pad fix. they are going to describe it as an "upgrade" but we all really know what it is.

Yeah that figures, could have thought of that myself

i still haven't received any mail yet from akai holland, 2 weeks ago i got an email from david saying he's going to try to get some information from akai japan and us.. still no further updates on that though.. im kinda struggling though, i don't want to open up my MP to fix some pads.. a bit scared to fux it up

having used many drum machines before recently getting an mpc i can tell you that if this is your first mpc then you wont be dissapointed, the pads are excellent and do exactly what they should.
obviously you`ve read the reviews i read about the comparrisons to the 2000 and 2000xl and 4000 etc. don`t forget a review is only one persons opinion and his job is to come up with so called good and bad points or there wouldn`t be a review.

regarding pad duration and length of life i cannot say as i not had my unit long enough, but for touch responce they are spot on and there is no need to whak them rediculasly hard , just turn the mix on the pad up or put it on full level button when required.

remember it is a piece of electronic equipment and not a drum kit!
but above all try before you buy. but if it aint for you then don`t buy it just because its the fashionable piece of equipment to have.

look after it and don`t abuse it and i see no reason for it to break.
and for around £600 for new model with free 128meg board you wont find better quality or value.
i love mine and now no longer use the pads on my drum machines, i sample everything thru my mp1000

best purchase you`ll ever make for sequencing/sampling and drums. and its more up to date than the 2000 era with usb and memory card so the possibilities are now endless!

later mate

lazyE wrote:regarding pad duration and length of life i cannot say as i not had my unit long enough, but for touch responce they are spot on and there is no need to whak them rediculasly hard , just turn the mix on the pad up or put it on full level button when required.

quite - right it's hard to say how long it will take for your pads to go.
but they will - as it's a design fault.

lazyE wrote:look after it and don`t abuse it and i see no reason for it to break.
and for around £600 for new model with free 128meg board you wont find better quality or value.
i love mine and now no longer use the pads on my drum machines, i sample everything thru my mp1000

true - abuse, is never an option - but it's a tool like any other tool an should be used. i'm a light to moderate user, don't use that much force, unfortunatly - my pads went after two years. and i don't have the funds to hand over $150 every couple of years.
and don't see why i should.
it's very easy for akai to supply a kit to solve the problem.
but there making $ from the current replacment pads.
so i don't see the kit coming on the market fast.

read what Antonym has to say at the begining of this thread.
he's talking a whole lotta sense.

lazyE wrote:best purchase you`ll ever make for sequencing/sampling and drums. and its more up to date than the 2000 era with usb and memory card so the possibilities are now endless!

yeah totally agree best move you could make, is getting an mpc1000

despite the pads

cheers

f

i totally agree with you mate your mpc knolledge is prob far greater than mine, i was just giving an opinion to the origional post sorry should have quoted that.
you guys knollege is very impressive, this forum is excellent, its not often you find forums free from abuse and advertising but this is great!

much respect to all, thanks for your reply to my comments mate

hopefully by the time my pads go i`ll be where i want to be in the music industry and be using someone elses mpc4000 that i don`t have to buy parts for lol

love, light , peace. . .


LazyE

lazyE wrote:i totally agree with you mate your mpc knolledge is prob far greater than mine, i was just giving an opinion to the origional post sorry should have quoted that.
LazyE

no problem - just addin my experience of pad failure to help broaden the info you have.

were all learnin - even akai - we hope.

peace

f

i gotta disagree w/ tha abuse it and it will fail arguement!
BRAND NEW, i had three week pads. they work but they're failing.　　this is no BS. it works but i can't get full levels on three pads unless i press 'full level'. (even if i go full sensitivity)now that's weak.

to be honest i bought it a while ago and almost never use it. i play with my sp-404 much more.
i will prolly buy nyms pads bc his heart is in it. and cuz i mailed him like three months ago and he jumped right back.

Hi Antonym,

You mention, 'go here for the pics, but not the fix for now'....

Just out of interest, why not now? I know many people will wait for the Akai solution, but does anyone have any experience ordering and installing this particular fix ?

I'm quite interested in going for that fix, as it means I get it now and won't have to send my MPC away.

What are your thoughts ?

Matt

Antonym wrote:people are not making too big of an issue out of the pads. the fact that there hasn't yet been a lawsuit is evidence of this.

4 dots of hot glue is not enough to sustain a drum machine's pressure sensors.

history lesson:

when akai released the 1000, they built it with components similar to the other mpcs at the time - all except Interlink Electronics FSRs, the most expensive component of the MPC series. these are pressure sensors invented by Roger Eventoff, formerly of Interlink Electronics.

during the production of the mpc, akai was losing it. result: they skimped on FSRs and replaced them with pressure sensors made by Inaba rubber, same company who makes that silly little robot puppy you've probably seen.

the technology used by Inaba was a great idea (pressure conductive rubber) but the engineering was just plain hurt. rather than creating a self contained sensor like the SR-D18-S or the IESF series (see www.cui.com) akai/inaba opted for a really rickety design - a square of pressure transducing rubber which rests on four dots of silicone glue over a copper coil active area.

problem - the PT rubber sloughs and peels away from the glue, resulting in a "broken pad."

like i said - this technology COULD have been implemented flawlessly and NOBoDY would have bugged out about the lack of IE FSRs - IF ONLY AKAI/INABA HADNT PUT IN A SENSOR THAT BROKE SO EASILY.

http://excommence.com/thepadfix/flaw.htm

go here for pictures, but not for the fix for now.