Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By optik415 Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:31 pm
im using the free jjos

I just chopped up a sample into 14 pieces Is there anyway i can apply a filter to all 14 @ once or do i really gotta do it manually for each one????

also pitch and other things all at once.
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By melton Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:50 pm
yep, use whole in the new program mode.
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By optik415 Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:03 am
i tried that but it highlighted all banks i was able to do pitch but not filtering.Can u explain to me.
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By optik415 Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:05 am
melton wrote:yep, use whole in the new program mode.


i tried that but it highlighted all banks i was able to do pitch but not filtering.Can u explain to me.
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By rinseout Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:19 am
Go to the filter page?
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By wookjr Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:17 pm
optik415 wrote:
melton wrote:yep, use whole in the new program mode.


i tried that but it highlighted all banks i was able to do pitch but not filtering.Can u explain to me.


Or filter BEFORE you chop.
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By freezerman Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:05 pm
There are two ways to filter all slices at once.

First you need to put all your slices in the same program. You can do that by manually creating a new programme, or by hitting EDIT in CHOP mode and let the MPC create one for you (EDIT/F2/create new program: YES).

First way: set up a Q-LINK to control filter and set it to TRACK mode so that it applies to all events in the track.

Second way: in PAD 11 mode, go to the FILTER tab and select WHOLE (that means ALL PADS). Then you will be able to set all he pads/samples to the same filter settings at once.

I am not sure that all these features are available with the free OS... I haven't used it for ages.
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By Antonym Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:06 pm
freezerman wrote:programme


hehehh

seriously though good post
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By Antonym Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:08 pm
listening to these tunes on your zebox freezerman. una vita is beautiful!!!! a damn mpc fugue!

really happy to have this page, gonna listen to em all
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By freezerman Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:29 am
Antonym wrote:listening to these tunes on your zebox freezerman. una vita is beautiful!!!! a damn mpc fugue!

really happy to have this page, gonna listen to em all


cool, take your time.

I am experiencing writers block at the moment, I seem to be going around in circles: sample, chop, reassemble, pull together 4 to 8 good bars, and nothing's getting anywhere from there...

BTW,Una Vita was produced on the RS7000.
There is a 'real' fugue produced on the MPC, filed under the title: "I am Bach".
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By Antonym Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:09 pm
I seem to be going around in circles: sample, chop, reassemble, pull together 4 to 8 good bars, and nothing's getting anywhere from there...


i'm right there with you man
same stuff happens to me all the time. at least this way you have a folder with that sample saved for the future. i find often that later in work i can reuse these samples one way or another.

RS7000, huh? refresh me, is that the one with the typhoon operating system? i've always been curious about that.
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By freezerman Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:35 pm
the RS7000 is a yamaha box, sampler sequencer and synth all in one. The RS midi sequencer is the best I've seen, with so many midi manipulation capabilities you wouldn't even imagine, a bit difficult to grasp at first, but incredibly powerful. The sampler section is horribly implemented, and the unit itself is so bulky and heavy that I eventually got rid of it when JJ OS dropped. I still miss some features of the RS sequencer (midi delay, midi time stretch, midi chords, step groove etc.).
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By Antonym Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:51 pm
sorry to hijack the thread
but freeze, in your experience with midi sequencers, what do you think of the jj os midi sequencing capabilities, between the piano roll style and the qlink automation?

the only experience i've had with midi sequencers is the MPC os 2.01, the MPC jj os, Reason, and Reaper. reaper is my least favorite of these for midi, but my favorite for live audio. the jj os is my favorite for midi sequencing otherwise. i'd like to get a more broad perspective.
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By freezerman Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:50 pm
welll.... this is now completely OFF TOPIC

I have different sequencer experience than you since I know the sequencers of MPC1000 (with all the different OS), the yamaha series (QY, RM1x and RS, all more or less alike) the horrible SP808 sequencer by Roland and the terrible pattern based sequencers of the Korg electribes.
I have never used a computer based sequencer.
Of the ones I know, the ones with the most features are the yamaha sequencers.
They are built around the concept of midi phrase, this is a group of midi events of any length (up to 256 measures). The phrases are placed in tracks, meaning that a track can be longer or shorter than the phrase. If the phrase is shorter it loops within the track, if it is longer, the phrase plays through as the track loops. This alone is a great feature. The phrases can be used an any track you want, at the speed you want and in the key you want with different groove and velocity settings (these are specified per track).
The yamaha sequencers have midi generation tools, say you want to make a filter sweep, you select a curve, you input the length, the step and the CC event of your choice and voilà, the CCs are all neatly laid out in the track. I would love the MPC doing this. With JJ OS you can do it but in real time only.
They also provide midi manipulation tools, such as midi delay. You chose the delay time, how many repeats you want, note increments on the delayed note (so you can make a delay up at the octave or at the 5th or whatever), the increments on velocity (so you can have a decaying delay), the groowe (delays are delayed...) etc. and the midi events are generated. You can do that in real time too. The MIDI delay function is so advanced that it is even better than some arpeggiators that you find on units such as the Microkorg. The MPC has nothing of that. Although it is so simple, it is a mix of copy/paste and transpose/modify velocity/shift events.
Another good one is midi time stretch (beat stretch they call it), where you can actually stretch a phrase in 1/16 to play at 1/8 instead (so it will be half the tempo of the sequence you're running) or any other value. You can make it faster or slower. This function is impossible to replicate on the MPC, it is easier to rewrite the sequence instead.
There are so many smart things the yamaha sequencers can do on midi. most of them can be replicated on the MPC when you know what to do, but it is not as swift. And not as user friendly. And definitely not as flexible.
I have kept my old RM1x sequencer, and as soon as I clean up the studio a little i will put it back to use. You should check one out if you have a chance.

when I bought the MPC1000 I wrote a long comparison of it with the RS7000 that you can read here. http://data.rs7000.org/forums/showthrea ... eadid=1387
It was before JJ OS, hey it was even before OS 2 by Akai! oh my god.

Th JJ OS did not provide anything new to me. I appreciate a lot the many added features, but the RS7000 has all the features of the JJ OS, plus some more. The workflow is better with the JJ OS than with the yamaha sequencers. The ergonomics of the MPC is also globally better (to me).

I think the MPC with JJ OS is great for sequencing samples (which is what I do, duh), but it is not a sequencer that is lends itself to intricate programming. It is something you actually play with your hands more than digging through submenus to generate midi data.

My ideal box would be the MPC sampler (and sample jobs) running the RS7000 sequencer. All in the MPC1000 package. That would be a bomb.