Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
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By dj e.d.e Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:44 am
check out my yahoo group VINYLRECORDADDICTS
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By incurablebeatlust Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:23 am
who wants to give him the 300 breaks file? im not.

By drumtrack Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:10 pm
xaav wrote:thank you my man
i'll check them out and let you know ;)

haha!
You dont know the Amen break, brother?
Those two are THE most used breaks ever in drum and bass, hiphop, etc.. You have lots to learn. So get on with it :)
Check for The Meters, Atomic Rooster, Led Zeppelin, Aretha franklin, blah blah. I especially like 70´s psych rock. But also check the weirdest things. Theres lots of drum breaks out there. You gotta be lucky too :D Better buy some crates at once from some older fellow and check them out for breaks and then go digging or something. Because youre not ready to dig yet ;) But if youre rich.. then ...... go for it!
Good luck

By Nojus Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:20 pm
i'd say check out all the breaks cd and both drumlabz joints. these cds are perfect for starter. esp all the breaks cd, cause it has names of all the breaks on it. so u can go from there. just pick the break u like and buy the lp. it'll save u time and money.

By mechp Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:29 am
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just get the 300 breaks file or buy some breaks records to start with. The vast majority of everyone's beats use a mixture of those same 300 breaks anyway. The key is to do your own thing with them and not just loop them sh*ts up.
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By cluster Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:45 am
mechp wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just get the 300 breaks file or buy some breaks records to start with. The vast majority of everyone's beats use a mixture of those same 300 breaks anyway. The key is to do your own thing with them and not just loop them sh*ts up.


Or get the 300, so you know what not to use... (I have them, and I never used them once) Out the box, thinking.

Doesn't matter though...

In the end, with enough know how, no one nows the difference... And those who can name the break, from the sound of a hat, are not the majority.
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By c0mplex Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:26 am
cluster wrote:
mechp wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just get the 300 breaks file or buy some breaks records to start with. The vast majority of everyone's beats use a mixture of those same 300 breaks anyway. The key is to do your own thing with them and not just loop them sh*ts up.


Or get the 300, so you know what not to use... (I have them, and I never used them once) Out the box, thinking.

Doesn't matter though...

In the end, with enough know how, no one nows the difference... And those who can name the break, from the sound of a hat, are not the majority.


Unless u learn to work ur drums properly, then even those who know the break u used still wont tell what it is.

I garentee u that u could give me a break, i could use it and flip it both sound and pattern wise, then u wouldnt even know it was the same break.. infact ud have no idea and wouldnt even believe me if i told u it was the same.

Its all down to the processin, learn to process the sounds and come with ur own signature "sound"
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By bpantell Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:42 pm
Check out Isaac Hayes "Joy"- Classic hip hop drums
If you want toms and crazy drum patterns, check out anything by Cozy Cole

Other than that if you need to you can start with a drum breaks record...this should at least get you started.

Peace
~B


http://www.StudioBhiphop.com




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By mpc4000xl Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:27 pm
c0mplex wrote:
cluster wrote:
mechp wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again. Just get the 300 breaks file or buy some breaks records to start with. The vast majority of everyone's beats use a mixture of those same 300 breaks anyway. The key is to do your own thing with them and not just loop them sh*ts up.


Or get the 300, so you know what not to use... (I have them, and I never used them once) Out the box, thinking.

Doesn't matter though...

In the end, with enough know how, no one nows the difference... And those who can name the break, from the sound of a hat, are not the majority.


Unless u learn to work ur drums properly, then even those who know the break u used still wont tell what it is.

I garentee u that u could give me a break, i could use it and flip it both sound and pattern wise, then u wouldnt even know it was the same break.. infact ud have no idea and wouldnt even believe me if i told u it was the same.

Its all down to the processin, learn to process the sounds and come with ur own signature "sound"




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TRUST THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



P.S. Yall Know I Can Tell The Break By just The KICK OR SNARE ONLY But Dudez Was RIGHT FLIP n PROCESS...........Who Knows EVEN UNCLE4000 Has Been Stumped................ :D .......once or twice....................
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By bpantell Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:12 pm
Word to that... I've flipped the same drum loops to sound completely different. That's the beauty of the MP'... there is definitely more than one way to chop and reassemble a break! Even combining the hat/snare/kick/crash etc from multiple breaks works great. If you hear a cymbol on a jazz record that you like, add it to your drum collection and add it to your next track!

People like madlib, dilla, dangermouse, Kanye, & company dont get to where they are at following anybody else's formula. Find a formula that works for yourself and dont be afraid to deviate from it to give your tracks exta umph and a little variety...

Peace
~B

http://www.StudiobHipHop.com


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By jk81 Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:19 pm
check out phatso's place website, the actual address is something different you'll have to google "phatso's place" to find it, but its loaded with tons of free drum breaks in wav format. i think he was originally from the group digable planets, i'm not sure, but it has just about every classic used in the history of rap plus more. if you want to record your own from vinyl instead of importing the wav you'll have to buy the records, but at least this will give you many names to go looking for. good luck. my advice though is to layer multiple kicks/snares cause a lot of them are weak by themself, imo.
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By mindcontrol Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:24 am
lumin wrote:for real, go educate yourself with goin to a record store and actually diggin for records and listenin to them.
these suggestions are good starting points, but the point of diggin is to not use the same samples other folks have used.


amen brother