help on purchasing MPC number 2

i've not had my 2500 that long, but I've rrecently been craving the old school sound of the 3000/60/s950/sp1200 etc. especially on drums....and the 2500 is pretty bulky and heavy and so it's nott really gunna leave my bedroom.....

I'm going back to college next week and I'm thinking about getting a student loan this year for (amongst other things) some new gear!
so im hoping to get a couple of bits...

I go away alot and want an MPC to use wiith a portable turntable when I'm not at home (i wont be literally "out" so ii don't need a llittle 500 or that, nor will i be carrying it about, just something that can go in the car no problem and doesnt way loads). I was thinking about finding a cheap 2000 or 2000xl for this? what do yous think?

Also, about the old school sound...
I want a new machine to use at home (aswell as my 2500)
what do you think my best bet woould be...

MPC 3000
SP1200

or one of these..

s950
s3000



baring in mind i already have a 2500 so it way be more sensible to buy an s model, but i'm in love with the thought of the 3000 at the moment


P.S- on a related note, how do i go about fitting a card reader on the xl? and is this the only model that you can do this too?

cheers!

SP 1200.... For sure

A 2000XL is not much different in size to a 2500.

A 3000 is a little bulkier than a 2500 from memory.

Personally I think your plan is excessive. You already have a 2500, that is easily more than enough.

yeah it is excessive, you're right.
I don't think purchasing a 2000/xl is excessive, but the 3000/SP1200 is for sure, but it's only cuz i'm getting a loan that im concidering it.
As i said, im looking for something that gives me the old school sound and i've never tried out any other model than the 2500 before and i really do want the 3000 badly...even just to try it out. I can always sell it again and make my money back...atleast.
The SP has a great sound, but I don't really know if it's worth the price tag....specs just don't add up. It doesn't seem very capable of much....compared to an MPC anyway.
I'm aware an S model is more sensible than a 3000 for the sound quality alone...

what about the card reader question?

...and not to go off topic, but just straight to the point.......2000 or xl, which is more worth it?

JJOS for the mpc2500 features 'Bit Convert'. You can convert your samples to 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 or 12 bits and also change the sample rate to 11025 or 22050. The best thing to have ever happened to the 2500 in my opinion. I used to push my samples through an old Casio FZ-1 and was even thinking of getting an mpc60 to get that crunch but not necessary now. It does the trick!!

oh yeah.. there's also 'Ring Modulation' in sample edit for extra bite!

Dirty, crunchy, old school mayhem. An absolute no-brainer for all 2500 owners wanting authentic old school sample and bit rates. Non of that 'bit grunger' effect crap!
EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED.

If you get a 3000, you will sell your 2500. once you hear the sound and thickness you will wonder what the hell is akai/numark doing nowadays. bro this is a business of sound not features. the 3000 has everything you need, nothing more nothing less. plus that sound!!!! and the filter. I feel in love as soon as I layered my first kick and snare. all the rest, fx, etc can be done in pc once you get into your mixing. there is a reason people dont part with them so easily. only thing is chopping without graphics, i dont mind since i used a asr10 for a while but you can always just use cheap soundforge, cooledit just to see the wave format and then sample with mp3k and trim with it......its worth it.

just buy a cheap s950 and have it runnin along yer 2.5k

hyena wrote:just buy a cheap s950 and have it runnin along yer 2.5k

co-signed

^^^^^^ word...Pretty cheap sollution and delivers that gritty crunch.

1 - only problem i noticed with midi is - that for some reason you always have to like press the pads harder to trigger the sounds or a rack sampler which sucks ---- because i dont make beats that way.

2 - if you sample in s950 and resample into the 2000xl you lose that 12bit sound.


see the dilema?

Althought the 2500 has the bit convert option, it doesn't sound much like most of the 12 bit samplers.

If you want that sound and want something that won't be hard to carry about back and forth I'd actually recommend an SP12000. They're surprisingly lightweight (probably because of the plastic casing).

Problem is of course you run the risk of dropping it whenever you move about and you probably wouldn't wanna risk getting jacked.


Otherwise you can also consider a 1000. It will be just like working on your 2500 with some minor hardware limitations. Plus everything you do on your 1K can be transferred to your 2500.

Problem is that it doesn't have the 12-bit sound you might be interested in.

So for the best old school sound to add to your home set-up I would say the SP1200. But the sampling time is somewhat limited. Plus there are cheaper alternatives (Ensoniq EPS is dope, Emax I don't have personal experience with but have heard samples of and it sounds dope as well, TX16W is highly underrated and you can find em real cheap).

For something to bring to school I would say the 1000. It won't ruin your workflow because its the same OS as your 2500. Its nice and compact so you can travel around with it. Its relatively cheap but offers quite a bit of power. Plus you can throw your work back and forth between home and school.

The bit reducers on the newer MPC's are a joke.

firework wrote:1 - only problem i noticed with midi is - that for some reason you always have to like press the pads harder to trigger the sounds or a rack sampler which sucks ---- because i dont make beats that way.

you just have to fine tune the velocity sensitivity of the hardware sampler. on the 950 it is really easy to do it.

2 - if you sample in s950 and resample into the 2000xl you lose that 12bit sound.


see the dilema?

untrue.
the more crystal clear converters of the 2000 will render realistically the lo-fi feel of the sample from the 950.
it is not magic, it will not recreate a resolution that is gone once you sampled in the 950. is like sayn that it will INVENT in a perfect way the 4 bits PER SAMPLE (4 bits x 44.100 times per second) hence regivin clearness to the original sound.

please study some basic sampling theory.[/quote]

would like to hear your beats hyena.

uhh, i rarely produce beatz in an hip hop way...i mostly do breakcore (fast industrial breakbeatz) and dubstep....
u can check those links:
http://www.estremirimedi.org/darkness.mp3
http://www.estremirimedi.org/hyena/music/apostep.mp3
http://www.estremirimedi.org/liveinleuven.mp3 (recorded live in belgium)
www.myspace.com/hyenareborn
www.myspace.com/feketezene