Alot of table talk, let's talk "needles" for a sec?

HARRY HUSTLE wrote:^^ nah actually only 1 deck I just sold my stanton table/mixer and Im going to sell my older american pro cd deck and grab up that hybrid table...it's been calling me and I just want a nice needle for it...

From all the feedback I was leaning towards the 447's but as it seems one of the key parts is how well it holds the record and I'm a bit more concerned with sound quality for sampling so I am pretty sure I'm going to purchase a M44 seems like it was between that and the whitelabel but I think the m44 has the edge, so Ill grab one up I guess I cant go to wrong with any of them, but always like to get what accomodates my set up best...

thanks for all the input and help....

i have a stanton 500-ll on my straight arm is this a problem i usually sample and i scratch sometimes, is this a problem i really havent noticed anything. What am i missing out on or is there anything wrong with this. and what the cheapest best needle for a straight arm for sampling and scratching just all around thanks

Well I don't know if you could really call it a problem....I mean if it aint broke to YOU don't fix it...

yet on the other hand you can personalize your sound a bit better with a better or maybe not even "better" but just better for your needs needle....

Things to consider, do you scratch or just want to sample...as some needles are better for certain things...

I wanted a good overall needle something that could be good for both, I ended up going with the shure m447's after alot of research and getting peoples feedback...and to be honest I am glad I did, I wouldnt go back...I love them....

My signal output is much hotter/cleaner/clearer....you can tell the difference in quality with out a doubt...and I think they are much easier on my wax...and hold the record real nice...Overall I think they are worth it no question...

but then again it's all personal flavor, some like the more muddy, gritty, dirty sound where me personally I rather have the cleanest signal I can get and I'll just dirty it up in the mix if needed....

Scoop one up man, I'm SHURE you'll be as happy as I am with the purchase to be honest I havent heard many complaints about the m447's and thats why I went with them and now I see why....solid product!!

I had a chance to get a pair cheaper then buying 1 single, so I figured I'd buy the 2 and just sell the other one to a friend....well as It turned out, I liked it so much I just kept my other one for backup and didnt even sell it....that should tell you something...

I have been using the 44-7s for a long time. Next time I'm buying needles, I'm gonna go for the 44-Gs. They're supposed to have a slightly better sound quality for sampling and are a little harder to set up right. But if they're set up correctly, they're as much skip resistant as the 44-7s...

hahah you know what man, I had the 44G they sent one to me in error because I ordered a 447...I actually tried it and wasnt that impressed so I told them about the error and they gave me a sick deal on 2 - 447's

And honestly man I love my 447's even kept the second for my back up....I know everyone has an opinion, but I favor the 44 7 no doubt...

HARRY HUSTLE wrote:Well I don't know if you could really call it a problem....I mean if it aint broke to YOU don't fix it...

yet on the other hand you can personalize your sound a bit better with a better or maybe not even "better" but just better for your needs needle....

Things to consider, do you scratch or just want to sample...as some needles are better for certain things...

I wanted a good overall needle something that could be good for both, I ended up going with the shure m447's after alot of research and getting peoples feedback...and to be honest I am glad I did, I wouldnt go back...I love them....

My signal output is much hotter/cleaner/clearer....you can tell the difference in quality with out a doubt...and I think they are much easier on my wax...and hold the record real nice...Overall I think they are worth it no question...

but then again it's all personal flavor, some like the more muddy, gritty, dirty sound where me personally I rather have the cleanest signal I can get and I'll just dirty it up in the mix if needed....

Scoop one up man, I'm SHURE you'll be as happy as I am with the purchase to be honest I havent heard many complaints about the m447's and thats why I went with them and now I see why....solid product!!

I had a chance to get a pair cheaper then buying 1 single, so I figured I'd buy the 2 and just sell the other one to a friend....well as It turned out, I liked it so much I just kept my other one for backup and didnt even sell it....that should tell you something...

thanks i was wondering if the m44 G was a good needle for a straight arm? I do scratch a little but mostly sample thanks again?

started with some busted ass needles from my stantion dj in a box setup, then upgraded them to the sc35c needles, stylus broke all too often, then when i got my first set of 1200's i bought m44-7's, after the stylus broke, i got the g's stylus replacement, then got an ortofon scratch needle from a friend for cheap, then replaced the g stylus with the n44c blue stylus modeled after the 35 series, and finally a friend who stopped dj'ing gave me his m35x

currently using 1 44-7 with the n44c stylus and 1 m35x

i really like the sound of the m35x, but the ortofon scratch needle, pink, was the all time king of sound, ortofon make some really excellent sounding needles, would get the qberts, but they're crazy expensive, probably just going to stick with what i got at the and one day probably get the electros......



oh yeah, if your using straight arm turntables, most people who have em, the pdx series, dj dstyles, dj babu, and the rest of em, use the 44-7's on thier turntables for sampling and whatnot, refrence would be the 7" that dstyles put out on bully, but he did run his shit through an sp12 and asr or eps.....

if your using a pdx set up and your tone arms are straight, i would suggest getting a 1200 and using a one pdx and one 1200, then you have the best of both worlds, using a straight arm for the side you scratch on and having the 1200 to play records from, but if you strictly mix, just stick with 1200s....

if your not scratching the records you sample, just make sure you're tracking light so it doesn't burn your records , just increase weight to make it more skip resistant when you scratch, a very simple solution.... burn your scratch records, but be gentile with whatever records your sampling from as they must be worth something to you....

been rockin ortofon nightclubs since 1994, switched out the needles just once, superior all around needle for both turntabilism, mixing, and sampling.

Cazillac wrote:been rockin ortofon nightclubs since 1994, switched out the needles just once, superior all around needle for both turntabilism, mixing, and sampling.

Co-sign on the Nightclubs...
I've used Shure's, Pickering's and Stanton's before the Ortofon and never went back to using those needles.
IMO the Ortofons have better volume and clarity to them.

I have a beat the f*** up 1200 and the M447's. I love em. I scratch minimally never had it come out the groove and use mostly for sampling. Everything I've recorded comes out well defined, the balance of lows, mids and highs sounds good to me.