potential tip: tracking idea

anyone know if this would work?

here's how one could potentially track out with PERFECT quality without resampling main outs AND without an expensive sound card.

1- get spdif cable
2- run spdif cable from OUT of mpc to IN of mpc
3- one track at a time, record DIGITAL.
4- one track at a time, save onto your flash card or hard drive.

YES it would take ages - but YES it is an incredibly cheap and incredibly HIGH QUALITY way around the tracking dilemma.

any ideas? anyone tried this and have a "but nym this wont work because...!!!"

burst my bubble, or fortify it with more soapy water
peace
nym

Yea but what about syncing all those tracks up?

I think that would be pretty much the same as selecting MAIN OUT in the recording screen. It's hard to say without have an actual schematic of the mpc signal flow, but I'm assuming that when you record MAIN OUT, you are getting the same digital signal that gets sent to the SPDIF. Hopefully, the signal gets recorded before it goes to the D/A converters, otherwise it would have to go back into the A/D converters to be recorded, and that seems silly.

We could try a comparison... not in front of my MPC right now, but it would be interesting to record the same song (or even just some sounds) trying both methods and compare.

hrmmm, interesting idea.


My Roland VS2000CD operates on the same principle. It basically records every single track as a .WAV file, so its like if I wanted to track it to protools or something it would already do that. but thats a good idea. just have to make sure all the tracks have the exact same start time.

sweet stuff. so this way will get better quality then resampling? cant try cuz i dont have any spdif cables

Yea but what about syncing all those tracks up?

record whit metronome countin

syncing up the tracks is easy, just put them where they're meant to go in the daw

tbonus, i've had poor results when resampling the MAIN out. i've compared a resample to an analog out to a digital, and the three comparisons are interesting. digital is of course the most pristine by nature. resampling sounds scooped, like something is missing.

this, on the other hand would be the exact same thing
maybe now i can start tracking even while away from the studio.

interested in seeing how this turns out nym. Let us know.

ShakyCrates wrote:sweet stuff. so this way will get better quality then resampling? cant try cuz i dont have any spdif cables

Yea but what about syncing all those tracks up?

record whit metronome countin

thats so Damn simple its genius! XxX

undersound wrote:

ShakyCrates wrote:sweet stuff. so this way will get better quality then resampling? cant try cuz i dont have any spdif cables

Yea but what about syncing all those tracks up?

record whit metronome countin

thats so Damn simple its genius! XxX

..like your writing style..in fact the writing is cleaver

Wouldn't it be better to the same thing, but record onto the audio tracks? Then you already have trimmed loops ready for looping in your DAW.

The only problem would be that some people were saying that recording onto audio tracks gives a 330 sample delay or something? Has this ever got sorted out?

Antonym wrote:
tbonus, i've had poor results when resampling the MAIN out. i've compared a resample to an analog out to a digital, and the three comparisons are interesting. digital is of course the most pristine by nature. resampling sounds scooped, like something is missing.

interesting... I wonder what causes that diffrence between the digital outs and sampling the main outs.

TBonus76 wrote:

Antonym wrote:
tbonus, i've had poor results when resampling the MAIN out. i've compared a resample to an analog out to a digital, and the three comparisons are interesting. digital is of course the most pristine by nature. resampling sounds scooped, like something is missing.

interesting... I wonder what causes that diffrence between the digital outs and sampling the main outs.

This sounds like there must be another D/A-A/D conversion taking place. This will degrade the audio signal, but why the MP would do this conversion internally seems a waste of time.

Surely it wasn't designed like this?

loozman wrote:

undersound wrote:

ShakyCrates wrote:sweet stuff. so this way will get better quality then resampling? cant try cuz i dont have any spdif cables

Yea but what about syncing all those tracks up?

record whit metronome countin

thats so Damn simple its genius! XxX

..like your writing style..in fact the writing is cleaver

Cheeky! Cheeky! i cant help being a Dyslexic tard lol

jigginz wrote:

TBonus76 wrote:

Antonym wrote:
tbonus, i've had poor results when resampling the MAIN out. i've compared a resample to an analog out to a digital, and the three comparisons are interesting. digital is of course the most pristine by nature. resampling sounds scooped, like something is missing.

interesting... I wonder what causes that diffrence between the digital outs and sampling the main outs.

This sounds like there must be another D/A-A/D conversion taking place. This will degrade the audio signal, but why the MP would do this conversion internally seems a waste of time.

Surely it wasn't designed like this?

Seriously, when I post beats online, i usually juste record the main outs and throw it on my cf card then upload itfrom there, and it usually sounds fine, even got compliments on my mixes, and its just two tracked out of the mpc.


But I def wanna try out your method nym, It may be a while before i get a digital cable cuz im really busy during the week with work and school, but let us know the more data you observe.


-Nova

has anyone actually tried the spdif out to spdif in thing yet? did it work?

edit: nevermind I just tried it, it doesn't work at all.

it must mute the digital output when you select digital in for the recording source