PRoS 'n CoNS oF ouR JJ SeQUeNCiNG oPTioNS--a review by nym

Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By bruxism Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:32 am
i think mayb you've just outgrown the MPC nym.

I mean, the level of control you want is probably a lot easier to achieve in something like logic, tools or ableton.

What do you find appealing about the MPC?
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By Antonym Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:44 am
why do you say that? i mean these features are here, after all, it's just that i'm using them. i'm not pushing the mpc to its limits or anything.

there are certain things that are easier with reaper/protools/logic/etc but that's a completely different story

but for building a groove and a lean, a bounce or whatever movement i want to create, actually sequencing a drum track in reaper/protools/logic is not nearly as easy or intuitive as in the mpc. in short, i'd just never come up with the same sounds. my beats would sound 100% different.

i've not outgrown the mpc - i'm just using what's there. what comes in the daw comes in the daw, and the final beat is different because of it.

By Projectvet Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:28 pm
Great explaination but seems like it comes with a hidden agenda. Sounds like your trying to convince everyone to go with midi grid editing "your favorite". It would be very unfornate to scrap the other forms of editing each one has it's purpose.

Anyone who is unfimilar with editing on the MPC, the girl-friend comment, should really revaluate their spendings. And or atleast should define the acronym MPC.

I don't know my machine fully yet, but I try to use it as thoroughly as possible. Nobody should be dumbfounded by this explanation of midi and grid editing.
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By Antonym Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:44 pm
it's my favorite for many reasons, all of which were clearly (and exhaustively!) laid out. there is no hidden agenda, and i'm a little irritated by the suggestion.

as for each form having its purpose, i would say this: 6 pad grid edit, 16 pad grid edit and midi grid edit all have somewhat similar purposes.

16 pad grid: visibility (16 pads at 1 time)
6 pad grid: groove control (EDIT time control over 6 pads viewed simultaneously)
midi grid edit: a synthesis of both. (complete visibility, EDIT time control over all recorded notes.

for that reason, it can be said that midi grid edit covers the other two, like a beach umbrella over two of those little paper parasols you get in mixed drinks. properly implemented, 16 pad grid edit could be made to more functionally resemble midi grid edit - not in the actual display of the notes in piano roll form, but most DEFINITELY the zoom/tc thing could be addressed.

By Projectvet Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:00 pm
Oh, so I must have read wrong when you suggested scraping grid editing.
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By Antonym Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:16 pm
i probably wasn't too clear, caught up in the excitement of the moment :wink:

i think grid edit could "learn from" midi grid edit. especially with that whole Zoom IN/OUT thing. i really am impressed by how that works independently of TC in midi grid. this is of crucial importance, and it's SORELY missing in grid edit.

i do think the two could reasonably be combined in a sense...and that people would be thrilled about it. as usual though my head is in the clouds and i'm just imagining.

By Projectvet Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:01 pm
I respect the fact that your trying to feed the needy, Nym. 8)
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By es-k Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:35 pm
oh shiiit! midi grid edit is dope.

thank you, very, very, very much.

peace!!!
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By wookjr Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:35 pm
Projectvet wrote:I respect the fact that your trying to feed the needy, Nym. 8)


You talking 'bout ME vet? Anyway... I'll try this feature this week-end.

Wook

Re: cool stuff

By SELFISH1 Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:12 am
Dahkter wrote:how about the fifth option - tapping it out live, and when you hit a bum note, hold down erase,hold down pad/key, replay til it's right?
It seems to be the fastest and best way to me...


This shouldnt be much to add probly. this is something i like on the mad basic 404 sequencer.

Re: cool stuff

By SELFISH1 Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:12 am
SELFISH1 wrote:
Dahkter wrote:how about the fifth option - tapping it out live, and when you hit a bum note, hold down erase,hold down pad/key, replay til it's right?
It seems to be the fastest and best way to me...


This shouldnt be much to add probly. this is something i like on the mad basic sp404 sequencer.
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By Phabeon Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:49 am
Antonym wrote:my response:

look for a job at which you sit and answer the phone, surf the internet, and spend hours in your mpc.

a girlfriend, i have. meaningful employment, i make for myself.
just fur the curious ones..

what J-O-B do you speak of ?


network technician or what?

let me know..

anyone do a "real" paint job on the mpc 1000 yet? soulja? status?



oNe
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By Antonym Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:23 pm
production assistant for a video studio is number 1
number 2 is audio engineer for a ghost town
three (2 more days!!!) is a waiter at carrabbas.
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By primebeatz Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:11 pm
Antonym wrote:production assistant for a video studio is number 1
number 2 is audio engineer for a ghost town
three (2 more days!!!) is a waiter at carrabbas.


Hold up.. You work at a video studio as aproduction assistant, but you ain't gonna make a tips video because you dont want to edit it? :?
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By Antonym Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:15 pm
hahahaha

i'm not involved in the editing, just the shooting.
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