A few MPC2000 XL vs MPC1000 questions

the 2500 offers a lot more

a warranty, 4x's the memory, faster and newer processor, the JJOS with Direct Recording, the midi outs, harddrive + cd rom support, Compact flash standard.....

get the 2500 you wont regret it....

bytheway i use a 2000xl + 1000...

When you're making a beat, do you use the MPC 2000XL or the 1000? And for what kinds of tasks do you use the different machines?

As you're saying the MPC 2500 offers a lot more, and I think it is worth the extra money. My only fear is that it is made to produce crunk and synth like beats which I hate, and it sounds too "perfect"/"digital".

I guess this fear is not valid, as I can make any kind of music on the MPC, and of course dirty sample based beats as well.

Kun wrote:When you're making a beat, do you use the MPC 2000XL or the 1000? And for what kinds of tasks do you use the different machines?

As you're saying the MPC 2500 offers a lot more, and I think it is worth the extra money. My only fear is that it is made to produce crunk and synth like beats which I hate, and it sounds too "perfect"/"digital".

I guess this fear is not valid, as I can make any kind of music on the MPC, and of course dirty sample based beats as well.

if you need the extra memory get the 2500. If you don't need the extra memory you might as well get the 2000.
Have you considered a MPD with Ableton live?

its all one style

all sample compositions, from drums and everything else... kinda like dj nobody

DarkWing wrote: if you need the extra memory get the 2500. If you don't need the extra memory you might as well get the 2000.
Have you considered a MPD with Ableton live?

I don't know if I need the extra memory. It is convenient to not have to think of sample time limits at all. Do I have to do that with the 32MB of MPC2000XL?

If I have 3 minutes of sampling time in stereo, I guess this is more than enough for one song? And if I then have one disc for every song then this shouldnt be a problem.

On the other hand, having 128mb of sampling memory gives me the opportunity to fill the MPC with all the sample I can imagine, and then let me test them all quickly together. I can easly make a huge sampling library that is at my fingertips all the time, without having to load different disks with different samples all the time. And I can also record a lot of live sessions with my Juno 106, a bass guitar ++ and use chunks of it in my compositions.

On the other hand, changing a disk for each song isn't that much of a trouble.. and 3 or 6 minutes of sampling time per song is more than enough..

I have used Ableton Live quiet a lot, but I don't find a computer screen a motivating tool to make music on. I don't like to see, I just want to hear the music. Buying a MPC inspired MIDI controller and a MID hub to controll all my samplers was my main plan at the beginning, but I've found out that I will try to avoid using computers since it often kills my creativity and takes some of the magic away from the process of making music

i think the sound quality is irrelevant.

yes rjd2 does use the xl a lot.

his music sounds dope - so what about quality then?

the XL has a wave form for chopping that the 3000 doesnt have

as far as sampling is concerned,

use the midi function on the XL and you can record live over sequences.

i use the xl. www.myspace.com/mgr1987 or www.soundclick.com/mgr

i think it is a well built machine.

the sampling time is great and it is very simple to use the zone function in edit mode and slice up to 16

I have heard the 2500 has glitches.

if you bought an MCD XL you would get compact flash, but considering you already use old equipment you are fully in the know with what you would be getting in terms of memory and storing your work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Production_Center

this link gives you information on technical comparison between mpcs

check the price over an xl compared with a 2500

xl's are built to last... the more modern you get paradoxically the more problems you encounter.

i only make beats i havent got onto live yet... but i intend to..

live recording is enough for me... loading and using the banks on the xl is fine with me.. but i do understand where you are coming from wanting to use instruments directly in.

the XL would be a smart decision... but the 2500 has a few more options perhaps that you specifically request

sampling time on the xl with 32mb upgrade is 6min22sec

thats plenty of time

wordsofwizdom wrote:sampling time on the xl with 32mb upgrade is 6min22sec

thats plenty of time

I think that's in mono right?
but that's all I ever sample in anyway

So is the 2000xl optional mono and stereo?

^yes

I think its need based. If you just sample short 4 or 8 bar loops and lay beats and bass lines over it, and never plan to link to lots of midi gear and a DAW, then get the 2000xl. I hear its real stable and has great converters. If you want to link to a DAW and control other midi gear, then get the 2500. It gives you USB for loading and dumping samples and programs and shit, and it gives you 8 outs so that you can track individual parts to multiple tracks in a DAW. It also has 4 midi outs so that you can hook it up to other midi gear (synths, drum machines, interfaces, other samplers) and use the sequencer in the 2500 to control everything. 128Mb of RAM can be overkill, but can give you tons more creative abilities IMO. I want that extra utility so I went with the 2500. Tons of producers use the 2000XL as a midi station too, so that can be done. Its a hard choice, but I went with the 2500 mainly for the 8 outs, USB. For most machines 8 outs costs you $400 or more to add.

Prophacee wrote:I hear its real stable and has great converters.

They're alright though (converters)...Nothing too special. Probably better than the ones of the newer mpc's though.