ASR-10 vs 2000XL

Ok, I've slowly been working with the ASR-10 for the past few weeks now. I'm trying to figure out why I should you the ASR-10 sampler of the MPC sampler. Maybe I'm just used to chopping up on the MPC, but chopping on the ASR-10 seems like so much work. On the MPC I just take a sample and chop it up into 16 zones and work with it. I can usually get it to the point where it's difficult to tell where the original sample came from. It takes me so long on the ASR-10 but everybody raves about the sampler. Can anybody share how they get down on the ASR?

Does anybody do what is described here:

http://ensoniqasr.proboards36.com/index ... 1113629957

They both compliment each other when used together.

Lampdog wrote:Old technology vs new technology, get used to it and adapt.

They are really different classes of samplers anyway, they aren't even comparible. One is a full fledged sampler and the other isn't.

Lampdog,

Is there a way to spread wave sample parameters across the keys all at one time? And what do you mean they aren't comparable? And if you could only have one piece which one would it be?

The amount of production you can do in the ASR is worth the extra work it takes to learn it [I still don't know it all, whatsoever]. I don't know how lots of these people make "beat-frames" or skeletons, on the MPC and call themselves a producer! The MPC is certainly EASY [I learned the night I got it], but it is not itself a full production machine until you implement the use of external midi devices!! [waiting to get beaten down by members of the forum]. EDIT: all record based production and samples is the exception... but you are just chopping and assigning.... {more beat-downs?]

I think having keys is essential to making MUSIC, not just beats. Lamp, you feel the same way?

The Grublet wrote:The amount of production you can do in the ASR is worth the extra work it takes to learn it [I still don't know it all, whatsoever]. I don't know how lots of these people make "beat-frames" or skeletons, on the MPC and call themselves a producer! The MPC is certainly EASY [I learned the night I got it], but it is not itself a full production machine until you implement the use of external midi devices!! [waiting to get beaten down by members of the forum]. EDIT: all record based production and samples is the exception... but you are just chopping and assigning.... {more beat-downs?]

I think having keys is essential to making MUSIC, not just beats. Lamp, you feel the same way?

I will agree with you on the note about the MPC. I couldn't completely appreciate it until I started incorporating other MIDI devices. I opened up a new world for me production wise

ivincent wrote:Is there a way to spread wave sample parameters across the keys all at one time?

Yes, it's in the ASR manual.

ivincent wrote:And what do you mean they aren't comparable?

1 is a full fledged sampler and the other isn't.

ivincent wrote:And if you could only have one piece which one would it be?

I have both, no need to choose only one.

^^^Trillz

Lampdog wrote:

ivincent wrote:Is there a way to spread wave sample parameters across the keys all at one time?

Yes, it's in the ASR manual.


Can you tell me which command it is. I've looked in the manual and can't seem to find it. I want to create a bunch of wavesamples at one time spread across the board so I can edit the parameters seperately...

the asr is basically a good piece for the price you can get them at today

no need for one if you already have a mpc, nothing is easier on it, just make music,

if you cant make hot music with an mpc, then an asr isnt going to help you

Can you tell me which command it is. I've looked in the manual and can't seem to find it. I want to create a bunch of wavesamples at one time spread across the board so I can edit the parameters seperately...

The asr is more of a manual machine, meaning there isn't a one button thing "do it" like on most of the newer mpc's. It's manual, meaning you must set the hi and low ranges of wavesamples manually.

Sample a sound into a blank bank, set the hi-lo ranges for that wavesample and it spreads across the keyboard. Done.

Individual samples in the same bank, need to be set hi-lo INDIVIDUALLY so that you'll have a kit across all the keys.

It's all MANUAL.

There's no zoning, you have to create zones on your own for instance.

Sample a sound into a blank bank, set the hi-lo ranges for that wavesample and it spreads across the keyboard. Done.

Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't spreading the wavesample across the board like that still leave only 1 wavesample, thus any changes made to the start and end points of the sample affect every key. Am I correct in assuming that the only way to chop the sample would be to manually copy a wavesample one by one and assign them to keys, or willl setting the high lo range on an individual wavesample allow me to make individual changes to the start and endpoints?

I just want to know is there a way to spread the sample across keys to chop without having to manually make copies of the wavesample and assign them to keys[/quote]

it only affects the other samples if you truncate the original, if not you can set the start and end points to anything you want

and the only way to put it across 61 keys is to go through and copy wave data to the other keys, theres no "autochop" on the asr. its advanced for a reason