Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By WiZe_InTeLLiGeNcE Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:24 pm
I'm just curious and if you do which one's..

I tried using it and it just doesnt seem to come out as "clean" or nice as it does on Audacity for Mac....

so i was wondering if any of yall use it and which one's you use and also just lookin for some tips on how to approach it?


1. i use pitch shift mainly to pitch vocals up

2. also use it to pitch shift the loop off that same song since i done pitched up the vocal sample(my hook) well i have to pitch up the loop too right?

unless my whole approach is wrong on this...

and i'm rocking the jj os 3.06, the free one...


let me know

oNe
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By TalkingHats Music Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:41 pm
in the 2000 you just went to trim and tune, that allowed you to change the pitch of the sample just like you can do it individually in program mode, but it did it to the main sample so you did not have to chnage everyone single one.

but since we have global edit mode, i suppose that dont matter now does it?[/list]
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By Antonym Sat Oct 13, 2007 2:56 pm
he's talking about pitch shift as opposed to tune.
i use it once and a while. you can't push things too far. been using it more these days than before.

there aren't really tips on how to approach it. it's either unnoticeable or it's noticeable and you don't use it.
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By mkl... Sat Oct 13, 2007 9:36 pm
witch pitch shift are you talkin about? the one in program mode?
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By M02 Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:27 am
^^^ There is no pitchshift it program mode, thats tune.

I've used it a couple of times. Its useful for me when the sample you want to tune has some sort of rhythmic element to it, ie. I had a hit with some cascading piano notes, and waqnted two notes of the hit. But if I tuned it the pianos notes are sped up and didn't fit with the original.

Its very hit and miss. I usually try about 3 different settings and if it doesn't work well give up. I think something complex such as voice will be harder to gvet good results than a single note for example, so maybe just do it on the PC. Also, if its a hit or something you want to lowpass anyway it works better, because you can get rid of that weird high static sound(which I think is aliasing) out of the sample.
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By Antonym Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:31 am
reaper has elastique pro...one of the best timestretching algorithms in the world
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By Lithion Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:39 am
Antonym wrote:reaper has elastique pro...one of the best timestretching algorithms in the world


cosign.
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By Antonym Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:24 am
not to change topic but now that i've mentioned it, i'm really blown away by how good elastique sounds.

i now input my tempo changes and maps from within reaper instead of in the mpc - elastique lets it still sound good.
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By primebeatz Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:18 pm
Reaper ain't "free" no more.
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By Antonym Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:29 pm
nah it's still free like before - you get an uncrippled, unexpiring copy (unlike jj, you can still save).

with version 2.0, though, the price went up from 40 dollars to a whopping 50 dollars.

i bought mine a couple weeks before the price increase. however, i'd still have bought it even after. 50 bucks for what reaper offers is INSANE.

you know ableton live's wave warper? reaper has a version of that. it's even better in reaper, too because it combines stretch (just click ALT while dragging an edge to stretch it) with crossfade (allow 2 items to overlap). this is ideal for using larger, longer, arhythmic samples that you wouldn't necessarily want to juggle in the mpc.

i'm petitioning for MTC sync too so i can use Reaper in conjunction with the 1000...

i've NEVER seen a daw as usable, fast, and flexible as reaper.
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By undersound Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:37 pm
i shift drums kicks down a little somtimes just to darken them up, fliter out the hi end add a lil reso hey presto lol
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By Antonym Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:52 pm
i use timestretch and pitch shift for weird sounds that i use. rhythmic stuff that appears only a couple times in my song. i layer the same thing (which formerly i claimed to never do) but pitch shift one up, another down, and then change em up a little in trim.

i sampled a bunch of children yelling "OH!" a short, quick sample from a children's record. copied it twice, so i had three. converted 2 to mono. pitched one mono up, squeaky, the other mono down, guttural and raw. the originally, i left the same. i'll post up the result when i am not so busy.
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By TalkingHats Music Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:07 pm
sh1t your right.. how silly of me...

pitchshift is totally a different variation, tuninng whist keeping the same bpm.

sorry.

*...[Penfold walks away feeling shame!!!]...*
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By Antonym Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:24 pm
eh, tune + chopping is the real man's pitch shift anyway haha

By mistasmijen Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:40 pm
Hmm, could someone perhaps give a link to reaper.

And is the pitchshift mode under Trim?